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Goulds water pump excessive cycling Eric Scantlebury 02-05-2008
---> Update on problem Eric Scantlebur...02-06-2008
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Posted by Eric Scantlebury on February 6, 2008, 6:59 pm

> Bubba wrote:
> ...
>> If all that doesnt help, unscrew the tank from the boiler ...
>
> ???
>
> This is a potable water system pressure tank, not a heating system...

Correct. I am talking about my incomming potable not my hot water tank.



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Posted by =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Blattus_Slaf on February 6, 2008, 11:32 am
Eric Scantlebury wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have an issue with my goulds well pump recently cycling on and off in an
> excessive mannor. By excessive I mean the pump will kick on and off several
> times a minute while water is being used in the house.
>
> The specifics: I have a 1/2 horse power goulds Jet water pump model J5S
> installed in my basement that is pulling water from a point in my front yard
> (no well). This pump feeds a Wellmate WM-6 bladder water tank. The pump is
> around 4 years old and the tank is around 10.
>
> I think the pump is working fine as when an upstream valve is turned on the
> preasure gauge on the pump falls like a rock from 60lbs to 40lbs kicking the
> pump on which makes the preasure fly like a rocket back up to 60lbs kicking
> the pump back off. This then repeats over and over. The manual for the
> pump indicates 4 things may cause this. 1 - a bad foot valve (I don't think
> this is the case as the pump holds preasure when not in use). 2 - the pump
> is more than 5 feet from the water tank (it is 2 feet away). 3 - there is a
> valve between the pump and water tank causing resistance (there is no valve
> placed there) and 4 - a waterlogged water tank.
>
> Ok - I also have had the service panel in my house upgraded one week ago so
> power was off to the whole house for about 5 hours last wednessday.
> Yesterday I ran a new line to the pump so had power off to that for an hour.
> I don't think that rewiring the pump could have caused this but I throw it
> out there as a coincidental thing anyway.
>
> Anyone have any ideas as to what may be happening? I'm suspecting something
> with the tank but I'm open to expert opinions.
>
> TIA
>
>
There is or should be an air stem on the top of your tank. put some air
into it. Liquid does not compress, air does.

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Posted by on February 6, 2008, 7:53 pm
wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have an issue with my goulds well pump recently cycling on and off in an=

> excessive mannor. =A0By excessive I mean the pump will kick on and off sev=
eral
> times a minute while water is being used in the house.
SNIP

Hey, folks I am guessing an EASY reason for this. He had the power
turned off quite a bit so he says. If, like at my house, the kids and
wife ignore me when I say DON'T USE WATER when the power is off,
that's what happened....Drained the tank, no input from the
pump.....yahda yahda yahda.....


Solution, turn off the main water cut-off when you cut the power. Wife
and kids ain't happy, but saves me hassling with the tank later.....

Posted by Eric Scantlebury on February 6, 2008, 11:24 pm

For anyone who is interested and just for the postarity of the post I figure
I'd update what I've done.

Ok, I drained the wellmate - seemed like more than 20 gallons came out, but
not much more. I then presurized the tank to 45lbs of air and left it for
an hour.

When I came back I still had "close" to 45lbs but not quite. I think the
bladder has a very small leak and over the last 4 years or so has caused the
"waterlog".

I put 38 lbs of pressure in the bladder (I let some air out) and put power
on the pump. Now everything seems to work "normal". My short cycling has
gone away - though since it has I guess I have "decided" I need a new water
tank in my future.

Thanks all for the suggestions - It was a great help.

Eric



Posted by Smitty Two on February 7, 2008, 12:36 am

> For anyone who is interested and just for the postarity of the post I figure
> I'd update what I've done.
>
> Ok, I drained the wellmate - seemed like more than 20 gallons came out, but
> not much more. I then presurized the tank to 45lbs of air and left it for
> an hour.
>
> When I came back I still had "close" to 45lbs but not quite. I think the
> bladder has a very small leak and over the last 4 years or so has caused the
> "waterlog".
>
> I put 38 lbs of pressure in the bladder (I let some air out) and put power
> on the pump. Now everything seems to work "normal". My short cycling has
> gone away - though since it has I guess I have "decided" I need a new water
> tank in my future.
>
> Thanks all for the suggestions - It was a great help.
>
> Eric

Updates are always appreciated. For posterity, though, starting a new
thread for the update is counterproductive.

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