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Green Copper Mike Dobony 12-17-2006
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Posted by Mike Dobony on December 18, 2006, 9:36 am


>snip<>>
>> That is what I would like to do, but the buyer we are negotiating with
>> right now wants copper and says he wants to remove the whirlpool. The
>> problem is that the deal is on a 72 hour clause. If we come to
>> acceptable terms then the house still remains on the market. If we get
>> another buyer who is ready to make a firm offer with a set closing date
>> the first buyer has 72 hours to commit to the purchase, otherwise it goes
>> to the second buyer with an acceptable offer. The first buyer is the
>> only one interested in the house without the whirlpool. Everyone else
>> has commented positively on the indoor whirlpool. e did this on another
>> house and the people with the 72 hour clause gave up the house. Also,
>> there would be NO plumber's time. It is all my time.
>>
>
> In that case, I'd agree to replace the copper with new pipe, since that's
> cheap and you can do it yourself. Tell him "no" to removing the whirlpool.

I"M not removing it. He claims he will after taking posession. Personally
I think he is just trying to make an excuse for lowering the price. So does
my realtor. He also wanted me to pay to replace perfectly good carpeting!
We hav so far negotiated that out of the deal.

> He's being silly. Even if you replace the pipes, the new ones will be
> green again at some point in the future and he'll realize he asked for the
> wrong thing. He should've asked his inspector to figure out WHY they're
> turning green.
>

Has not had an inspector look at it yet as we have not reached an agreement
yet.

I totally agree about the copper doing it again. The cause IS the clorine
in the whirlpool per our plumber. High PH water might also be contributing
to the problem.

> Of course, only you and your realtor know what the local house market is
> like. Is waiting for a second offer realistic, or aren't you getting many
> lookers?
>

He's the first one to look. We have a second coming over today. Next week
it is on the realtor tour. We have been very busy getting it emptied out
and into our new home 9 hours away.



Posted by JoeSpareBedroom on December 18, 2006, 9:44 am


> >snip<>>
>>> That is what I would like to do, but the buyer we are negotiating with
>>> right now wants copper and says he wants to remove the whirlpool. The
>>> problem is that the deal is on a 72 hour clause. If we come to
>>> acceptable terms then the house still remains on the market. If we get
>>> another buyer who is ready to make a firm offer with a set closing date
>>> the first buyer has 72 hours to commit to the purchase, otherwise it
>>> goes to the second buyer with an acceptable offer. The first buyer is
>>> the only one interested in the house without the whirlpool. Everyone
>>> else has commented positively on the indoor whirlpool. e did this on
>>> another house and the people with the 72 hour clause gave up the house.
>>> Also, there would be NO plumber's time. It is all my time.
>>>
>>
>> In that case, I'd agree to replace the copper with new pipe, since that's
>> cheap and you can do it yourself. Tell him "no" to removing the
>> whirlpool.
>
> I"M not removing it. He claims he will after taking posession.
> Personally I think he is just trying to make an excuse for lowering the
> price. So does my realtor. He also wanted me to pay to replace perfectly
> good carpeting! We hav so far negotiated that out of the deal.
>
>> He's being silly. Even if you replace the pipes, the new ones will be
>> green again at some point in the future and he'll realize he asked for
>> the wrong thing. He should've asked his inspector to figure out WHY
>> they're turning green.
>>
>
> Has not had an inspector look at it yet as we have not reached an
> agreement yet.
>
> I totally agree about the copper doing it again. The cause IS the
> clorine in the whirlpool per our plumber. High PH water might also be
> contributing to the problem.
>
>> Of course, only you and your realtor know what the local house market is
>> like. Is waiting for a second offer realistic, or aren't you getting many
>> lookers?
>>
>
> He's the first one to look. We have a second coming over today. Next
> week it is on the realtor tour. We have been very busy getting it emptied
> out and into our new home 9 hours away.
>

Carpet?!? Are these young people? That's nuts! Murphy's Law: If you have
clean carpet, it is guaranteed to rain or snow on the day you move in. The
movers are not going to switch from shoes to nice clean slippers every time
they come in the door. :-)

When I was house shopping, my realtor and I looked at a house owned by a
young guy who was a deer hunter. He had antlers hanging all over the walls.
He happened to mention that the house had been on the market for 3 months,
without a single expression of interest from buyers. Weird, because it was a
great house. My realtor suggested that he get the antlers off the walls
because they probably turned a lot of people off. He did it. It was sold in
a week.



Posted by Mike Dobony on December 18, 2006, 10:05 am



>> >snip<>>
>>>> That is what I would like to do, but the buyer we are negotiating with
>>>> right now wants copper and says he wants to remove the whirlpool. The
>>>> problem is that the deal is on a 72 hour clause. If we come to
>>>> acceptable terms then the house still remains on the market. If we get
>>>> another buyer who is ready to make a firm offer with a set closing date
>>>> the first buyer has 72 hours to commit to the purchase, otherwise it
>>>> goes to the second buyer with an acceptable offer. The first buyer is
>>>> the only one interested in the house without the whirlpool. Everyone
>>>> else has commented positively on the indoor whirlpool. e did this on
>>>> another house and the people with the 72 hour clause gave up the house.
>>>> Also, there would be NO plumber's time. It is all my time.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In that case, I'd agree to replace the copper with new pipe, since
>>> that's cheap and you can do it yourself. Tell him "no" to removing the
>>> whirlpool.
>>
>> I"M not removing it. He claims he will after taking posession.
>> Personally I think he is just trying to make an excuse for lowering the
>> price. So does my realtor. He also wanted me to pay to replace
>> perfectly good carpeting! We hav so far negotiated that out of the deal.
>>
>>> He's being silly. Even if you replace the pipes, the new ones will be
>>> green again at some point in the future and he'll realize he asked for
>>> the wrong thing. He should've asked his inspector to figure out WHY
>>> they're turning green.
>>>
>>
>> Has not had an inspector look at it yet as we have not reached an
>> agreement yet.
>>
>> I totally agree about the copper doing it again. The cause IS the
>> clorine in the whirlpool per our plumber. High PH water might also be
>> contributing to the problem.
>>
>>> Of course, only you and your realtor know what the local house market is
>>> like. Is waiting for a second offer realistic, or aren't you getting
>>> many lookers?
>>>
>>
>> He's the first one to look. We have a second coming over today. Next
>> week it is on the realtor tour. We have been very busy getting it
>> emptied out and into our new home 9 hours away.
>>
>
> Carpet?!? Are these young people? That's nuts! Murphy's Law: If you have
> clean carpet, it is guaranteed to rain or snow on the day you move in. The
> movers are not going to switch from shoes to nice clean slippers every
> time they come in the door. :-)
>

I believe the idea was that we give them a floor covering allowance to pay
them to replace the whole house with new carpet and linoleum and this would
be AFTER moving in. The absolute worst case scenario is that we replace the
padding in the entrance way and have the first room professionally
shamnpooed. The carpet is in excellent condition! They just don't like the
style.

> When I was house shopping, my realtor and I looked at a house owned by a
> young guy who was a deer hunter. He had antlers hanging all over the
> walls. He happened to mention that the house had been on the market for 3
> months, without a single expression of interest from buyers. Weird,
> because it was a great house. My realtor suggested that he get the antlers
> off the walls because they probably turned a lot of people off. He did it.
> It was sold in a week.

essarily turned them off as such, but definately distracted potential
buyers. I tried to explain that to my wife. She doesn't listen. Now most
of it is in our other house. One truck load and it is finished with our
stuff. My son takes posession on their house mid-January, then an empty
house!



Posted by Doug Miller on December 18, 2006, 10:45 am


>
>I believe the idea was that we give them a floor covering allowance to pay
>them to replace the whole house with new carpet and linoleum and this would
>be AFTER moving in. The absolute worst case scenario is that we replace the
>padding in the entrance way and have the first room professionally
>shamnpooed. The carpet is in excellent condition! They just don't like the
>style.

What's the real estate market like in your city right now? If it's a buyer's
market, you may have to cave on that. If it's a seller's market, you can tell
them to pound sand.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Posted by Mike Dobony on December 18, 2006, 6:39 pm



>>
>>I believe the idea was that we give them a floor covering allowance to pay
>>them to replace the whole house with new carpet and linoleum and this
>>would
>>be AFTER moving in. The absolute worst case scenario is that we replace
>>the
>>padding in the entrance way and have the first room professionally
>>shamnpooed. The carpet is in excellent condition! They just don't like
>>the
>>style.
>
> What's the real estate market like in your city right now? If it's a
> buyer's
> market, you may have to cave on that. If it's a seller's market, you can
> tell
> them to pound sand.
>

Almost a nitch market. Largest house on the block, only one with a
whirlpool (HOT selling point except with this buyer). Overall market rather
neutral, depends on the house and neighborhood market. This house is near
the bottom of the upper-scale homes in the nearby area with a few extras,
like curb-side mail box (one of only 2 streets in the town with curb-side
mail service) and double the price houses only 2 blocks away. Also, every
market is both a seller's market and a buyer's market. Much depends on the
determination of the seller and individual buyer. We are not exactly
pressed at this time to sell. I don't start school now until May.

> --
> Regards,
> Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
>
> It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.



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