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Grounding a satellite Terry 02-22-2007
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Posted by Terry on February 22, 2007, 12:39 pm


When I first got a satellite, Direct TV came out and drove a small
ground rod and ran a bare wire from the base of the dish to the ground
rod.

I no longer use satellite but I am thinking about switching back
again.

I plan to have the new installer leave the base of the satellite
grounded to the ground rod, but also insist that he take another bare
wire from the clamp on the ground rod into the house and bond it to a
copper water pipe.

Will this meet code? If I can't get the satellite people to ground it
properly then I plan to stay on cable. I don't plan to spend any
money out of my pocket to ground a satellite system when I can just
stay on cable and not worry about it.

The cable company installed a splitter and came off the splitter to
the same cold water pipe I plan to have the satellite people to use.


Real Goods Solar, Inc.
Posted by on February 22, 2007, 12:58 pm



>When I first got a satellite, Direct TV came out and drove a small
>ground rod and ran a bare wire from the base of the dish to the ground
>rod.
>
>I no longer use satellite but I am thinking about switching back
>again.
>
>I plan to have the new installer leave the base of the satellite
>grounded to the ground rod, but also insist that he take another bare
>wire from the clamp on the ground rod into the house and bond it to a
>copper water pipe.
>
>Will this meet code? If I can't get the satellite people to ground it
>properly then I plan to stay on cable. I don't plan to spend any
>money out of my pocket to ground a satellite system when I can just
>stay on cable and not worry about it.
>
>The cable company installed a splitter and came off the splitter to
>the same cold water pipe I plan to have the satellite people to use.


The NEC requires that this get connected to the ground electrode
system for the house with a 6ga wire.

820.40(D) Bonding of Electrodes. A bonding jumper not smaller than 6
AWG copper or equivalent shall be connected between the antenna
systems grounding electrode and the power grounding electrode system
at the building or structure served where separate electrodes are
used.

Posted by Tom Horne, Electrician on February 22, 2007, 3:38 pm


Terry wrote:
> When I first got a satellite, Direct TV came out and drove a small
> ground rod and ran a bare wire from the base of the dish to the ground
> rod.
>
> I no longer use satellite but I am thinking about switching back
> again.
>
> I plan to have the new installer leave the base of the satellite
> grounded to the ground rod, but also insist that he take another bare
> wire from the clamp on the ground rod into the house and bond it to a
> copper water pipe.
>
> Will this meet code? If I can't get the satellite people to ground it
> properly then I plan to stay on cable. I don't plan to spend any
> money out of my pocket to ground a satellite system when I can just
> stay on cable and not worry about it.
>
> The cable company installed a splitter and came off the splitter to
> the same cold water pipe I plan to have the satellite people to use.
>

Unless the water pipe you are talking about is within five pipe feet of
were the piping enters the building AND, the supply piping in the earth
outside your home is also metallic And, the underground portion of the
supply piping is twenty or more feet in length, it is not suitable for
use as a grounding electrode. The US National Electric Code (NEC);
which may or may not be enforced as law in your community; requires that
the Grounding Electrode Conductor for your satellite dish must terminate
at the Grounding Electrode system of the building. If the entry point
of the satellite feed line is too far from the grounding electrode
system then a full sized driven rod of at least eight feet in length
should be driven below the dish and within a few feet of the point of
entry. That driven rod is then bonded to the Grounding Electrode System
so as to become part of that system electrically. The minimum size of
the bonding conductor is number six American Wire Gage (AWG).
--
Tom Horne

"This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous
for general use." Thomas Alva Edison

ARTICLE 810 Radio and Television Equipment
I. General
810.1 Scope.
This article covers antenna systems for radio and television receiving
equipment, amateur radio transmitting and receiving equipment, and
certain features of transmitter safety. This article covers antennas
such as multi-element, vertical rod, and dish, and also covers the
wiring and cabling that connects them to equipment. This article does
not cover equipment and antennas used for coupling carrier current to
power line conductors.

II. Receiving Equipment — Antenna Systems

810.15 Grounding.
Masts and metal structures supporting antennas shall be grounded in
accordance with 810.21.

810.21 Grounding Conductors — Receiving Stations.
Grounding conductors shall comply with 810.21(A) through (J).

(F) Electrode. The grounding conductor shall be connected as follows:
(1)        To the nearest accessible location on the following:
a.        The building or structure grounding electrode system as covered in
250.50
b.        The grounded interior metal water piping systems, within 1.52 m (5
ft) from its point of entrance to the building, as covered in 250.52
See the commentary following 250.52(A)(1).
c.        The power service accessible means external to the building, as
covered in 250.94
d.        The metallic power service raceway
e.        The service equipment enclosure, or
f.        The grounding electrode conductor or the grounding electrode
conductor metal enclosures;

(J) Bonding of Electrodes. A bonding jumper not smaller than 6 AWG
copper or equivalent shall be connected between the radio and television
equipment grounding electrode and the power grounding electrode system
at the building or structure served where separate electrodes are used.

Posted by Terry on February 22, 2007, 9:48 pm


wrote:
> Terry wrote:
> > When I first got a satellite, Direct TV came out and drove a small
> > ground rod and ran a bare wire from the base of the dish to the ground
> > rod.
>
> > I no longer use satellite but I am thinking about switching back
> > again.
>
> > I plan to have the new installer leave the base of the satellite
> > grounded to the ground rod, but also insist that he take another bare
> > wire from the clamp on the ground rod into the house and bond it to a
> > copper water pipe.
>
> > Will this meet code? If I can't get the satellite people to ground it
> > properly then I plan to stay on cable. I don't plan to spend any
> > money out of my pocket to ground a satellite system when I can just
> > stay on cable and not worry about it.
>
> > The cable company installed a splitter and came off the splitter to
> > the same cold water pipe I plan to have the satellite people to use.
>
> Unless the water pipe you are talking about is within five pipe feet of
> were the piping enters the building AND, the supply piping in the earth
> outside your home is also metallic And, the underground portion of the
> supply piping is twenty or more feet in length, it is not suitable for
> use as a grounding electrode. The US National Electric Code (NEC);
> which may or may not be enforced as law in your community; requires that
> the Grounding Electrode Conductor for your satellite dish must terminate
> at the Grounding Electrode system of the building. If the entry point
> of the satellite feed line is too far from the grounding electrode
> system then a full sized driven rod of at least eight feet in length
> should be driven below the dish and within a few feet of the point of
> entry. That driven rod is then bonded to the Grounding Electrode System
> so as to become part of that system electrically. The minimum size of
> the bonding conductor is number six American Wire Gage (AWG).
> --
> Tom Horne
>
> "This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous
> for general use." Thomas Alva Edison
>
> ARTICLE 810 Radio and Television Equipment
> I. General
> 810.1 Scope.
> This article covers antenna systems for radio and television receiving
> equipment, amateur radio transmitting and receiving equipment, and
> certain features of transmitter safety. This article covers antennas
> such as multi-element, vertical rod, and dish, and also covers the
> wiring and cabling that connects them to equipment. This article does
> not cover equipment and antennas used for coupling carrier current to
> power line conductors.
>
> II. Receiving Equipment - Antenna Systems
>
> 810.15 Grounding.
> Masts and metal structures supporting antennas shall be grounded in
> accordance with 810.21.
>
> 810.21 Grounding Conductors - Receiving Stations.
> Grounding conductors shall comply with 810.21(A) through (J).
>
> (F) Electrode. The grounding conductor shall be connected as follows:
> (1) To the nearest accessible location on the following:
> a. The building or structure grounding electrode system as covered in
> 250.50
> b. The grounded interior metal water piping systems, within 1.52 m (5
> ft) from its point of entrance to the building, as covered in 250.52
> See the commentary following 250.52(A)(1).
> c. The power service accessible means external to the building, as
> covered in 250.94
> d. The metallic power service raceway
> e. The service equipment enclosure, or
> f. The grounding electrode conductor or the grounding electrode
> conductor metal enclosures;
>
> (J) Bonding of Electrodes. A bonding jumper not smaller than 6 AWG
> copper or equivalent shall be connected between the radio and television
> equipment grounding electrode and the power grounding electrode system
> at the building or structure served where separate electrodes are used




I kind of get the feeling that about 100% of the dishes installed do
not meet these requirements.



Posted by Mark Lloyd on February 22, 2007, 10:55 pm



>wrote:
>> Terry wrote:

[snip]

>> conductor metal enclosures;
>>
>> (J) Bonding of Electrodes. A bonding jumper not smaller than 6 AWG
>> copper or equivalent shall be connected between the radio and television
>> equipment grounding electrode and the power grounding electrode system
>> at the building or structure served where separate electrodes are used
>
>
>
>
>I kind of get the feeling that about 100% of the dishes installed do
>not meet these requirements.
>

Mine wasn't grounded. It had a wire from the dish that wasn't
connected to the grounding block that wasn't grounded.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

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