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Gutters--Proper installation question Dave Combs 06-16-2005
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Posted by Joseph Meehan on June 17, 2005, 7:58 am
Dave Combs wrote:
>I just had new gutters installed and I am not paticularly happy with
> the installation. My facia boards are at right angles to the
> rafters, not perpendiculat to the ground. My roof is very low
> pitched (1:12) so the bottom of the facia board is "indented". The
> gutters were installed with the back perpendicular to the ground, not
> flush with the facia therefore there is a gap that one can stick a
> little finger between the gutter and the facia. The gutter company
> says it installed them perpendicular to the ground so water doesn't
> flow over the tim in a heavy range. They are coming back to discuss
> the matter on Monday but I need some expert advice. Has anyone ever
> seen a gutter that was not installed flush to the facia?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave

They did the job the right way. Don't try to improve on what they did
right.

--
Joseph Meehan

Dia duit



Posted by MLD on June 17, 2005, 10:15 am
While a couple of responses are on the right track basically, you haven't
received one reply that gives you the correct answer to your problem. I
have a fascia board that is not vertical and is angled inward. The gutters
are installed perpendicular to the ground but here is the difference between
your installation and mine. I have a drip edge under the first course of
shingles on the roof---it extends slightly beyond the roof line. There is a
product called "gutter wedges" that are designed to be used when there is a
angled fascia board. When the gutter is installed correctly, the drip edge
extend over the gutter and the wedges provide a solid foundation to keep the
gutter in place. My wedges are about 12" or so apart. The link below will
show you exactly what I'm referring to. There is even a sketch that shows a
typical installation. I'm amazed that a company that installs gutters didn't
put in the wedges. My system is as solid as a rock and putting/climbing a
ladder against the gutter didn't even budge it. Get it done right--print
out the sketch shown in the referenced link.
http://www.gutterworks.com/endcaps.html

MLD



> I just had new gutters installed and I am not paticularly happy with the
> installation. My facia boards are at right angles to the rafters, not
> perpendiculat to the ground. My roof is very low pitched (1:12) so the
> bottom of the facia board is "indented". The gutters were installed with
> the back perpendicular to the ground, not flush with the facia therefore
> there is a gap that one can stick a little finger between the gutter and
the
> facia. The gutter company says it installed them perpendicular to the
> ground so water doesn't flow over the tim in a heavy range. They are
coming
> back to discuss the matter on Monday but I need some expert advice. Has
> anyone ever seen a gutter that was not installed flush to the facia?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dave
>
>



Posted by G Henslee on June 17, 2005, 10:18 am
MLD wrote:
> While a couple of responses are on the right track basically, you haven't
> received one reply that gives you the correct answer to your problem.

<top posting corrected>

BFD. Get off of your soapbox...

Posted by MLD on June 17, 2005, 10:41 am

> MLD wrote:
> > While a couple of responses are on the right track basically, you
haven't
> > received one reply that gives you the correct answer to your problem.
>
> <top posting corrected>
>
> BFD. Get off of your soapbox...

Obviously, you must be the guy that installed the gutters--



Posted by RicodJour on June 17, 2005, 11:17 am
MLD wrote:
> While a couple of responses are on the right track basically, you haven't
> received one reply that gives you the correct answer to your problem. I
> have a fascia board that is not vertical and is angled inward. The gutters
> are installed perpendicular to the ground but here is the difference between
> your installation and mine. I have a drip edge under the first course of
> shingles on the roof---it extends slightly beyond the roof line. There is a
> product called "gutter wedges" that are designed to be used when there is a
> angled fascia board. When the gutter is installed correctly, the drip edge
> extend over the gutter and the wedges provide a solid foundation to keep the
> gutter in place. My wedges are about 12" or so apart. The link below will
> show you exactly what I'm referring to. There is even a sketch that shows a
> typical installation. I'm amazed that a company that installs gutters didn't
> put in the wedges. My system is as solid as a rock and putting/climbing a
> ladder against the gutter didn't even budge it. Get it done right--print
> out the sketch shown in the referenced link.
> http://www.gutterworks.com/endcaps.html

A few observations:
-You shouldn't put ladders against the gutter. It's the sign of a
hack.
-Regarding your amazement - the shims are a non-standard item and
unlikely to be included in any contract unless specified or discussed
beforehand.
-If you read the OP you should have picked up on the roof pitch: 1/12
which is slightly under 5 degrees. The link you provided shows 20-45
degree wedges. How much of that store-bought wedge is going to be left
after you trim it down to 1/12? Less than 3/8".
-Your solution is rather lame for the OP's situation. It's a needless
expense and a huge waste of time cutting down wedges. If you think it
needs to be shimmed, there are better ways to do it.

R


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