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HDTV antennas & complaints james12321 08-20-2007
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Posted by RickH on August 20, 2007, 10:34 am
On Aug 20, 7:50 am, james12...@none.com wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:28:56 -0400, "Freckles"
>
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>
>
>
>
> >>I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either buy
> >> a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
> >> neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture, I
> >> am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the only
> >> means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck on
> >> satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna, and
> >> most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local channels.
>
> >> I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I surely
> >> will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental agency is
> >> behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and the crappy
> >> broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope that the
> >> convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv than that on
> >> the actual hdtvs.
>
> >> Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new rooftop
> >> antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
> >> temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning to
> >> buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will need a
> >> HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would also work.
> >> Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor or does that
> >> need to be changed too?
>
> >> If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about this
> >> HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been the same
> >> since the beginning of television, and now we got these republican
> >> morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies can rob people
> >> charging them ten or more times the price of a regular tv and giving
> >> them a lousy picture. Just the same story as always these days, pay
> >> more, and get less..... I wonder how much money the republicans are
> >> getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>
> >> James
>
> >Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
> >picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as the
> >ones you receive on a regular TV set. However, if it is a HD program the
> >picture will be extremely clear and beautiful when viewed on A HDTV, if not
> >something is very wrong.
>
> They have a big screen HDTV at a local fast food restaurant. It's
> always tuned to CNN News. (I guess that helps a person digest their
> food). Anyhow, I cant get CNN news on my antenna, so I assume the
> restaurant is connected to cable tv. Wouldn't cable tv be sending in
> HDTV format? All I know is that the picture seems to have sparklers
> as I'd descibe them. Sort of like the 4th of july sparklers. Small
> flashes of light that are very irritating. Another thing, the faces
> are off color, appearing to have like shades of blue and green for
> shadows. The faces look real fake, more like a drawn cartoon than an
> actual person. The most annoying thing is that the picture often
> seems to get stuck for a second or so, kind of like watching a
> streaming video on the computer (using a 56k modem) and the video is
> not downloading fast enough. I sometimes get a little "snow" on my
> standard tv, but I can live with that much better than flashes of
> light, fake looking people, and picture delays.
>
> I also saw a demo HDTV at a department store that had the picture in
> blocks. It looked like someone took a 200X200 pixel photo on a
> computer and blew it up to 1200X1200. It was all large blocks of of
> broken up picture that seemed like it could not keep up with the speed
> of the change in the pciture. My guess would be that this set was
> defective, but not the one at the restaurrant. How the store expects
> to sell hdtvs using that POS for a demo is beyond me.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes the people on wide screen tv's "lose their necks" and look
deformed and abnormal. It's just something we have to live with I
guess. I have not seen the sparlky problem, but I cant stand watching
tv at anybodys house who has a widescreen because the people frankly
look like "midgets" (if you know what I mean, not to be derrogatory to
midgets). My area is the last in the country where any of the local
stations are broadcasting HD, so I'll wait and just use my 2 free
government-provided converter boxes.



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Posted by Tony Hwang on August 20, 2007, 10:53 am
james12321@none.com wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 05:28:56 -0400, "Freckles"
>
>
>>
>>>I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either buy
>>>a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
>>>neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture, I
>>>am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the only
>>>means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck on
>>>satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna, and
>>>most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local channels.
>>>
>>>I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I surely
>>>will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental agency is
>>>behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and the crappy
>>>broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope that the
>>>convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv than that on
>>>the actual hdtvs.
>>>
>>>Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new rooftop
>>>antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
>>>temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning to
>>>buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will need a
>>>HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would also work.
>>>Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor or does that
>>>need to be changed too?
>>>
>>>If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about this
>>>HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been the same
>>>since the beginning of television, and now we got these republican
>>>morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies can rob people
>>>charging them ten or more times the price of a regular tv and giving
>>>them a lousy picture. Just the same story as always these days, pay
>>>more, and get less..... I wonder how much money the republicans are
>>>getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>>>
>>>James
>>
>>Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
>>picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as the
>>ones you receive on a regular TV set. However, if it is a HD program the
>>picture will be extremely clear and beautiful when viewed on A HDTV, if not
>>something is very wrong.
>>
>>
>
>
> They have a big screen HDTV at a local fast food restaurant. It's
> always tuned to CNN News. (I guess that helps a person digest their
> food). Anyhow, I cant get CNN news on my antenna, so I assume the
> restaurant is connected to cable tv. Wouldn't cable tv be sending in
> HDTV format? All I know is that the picture seems to have sparklers
> as I'd descibe them. Sort of like the 4th of july sparklers. Small
> flashes of light that are very irritating. Another thing, the faces
> are off color, appearing to have like shades of blue and green for
> shadows. The faces look real fake, more like a drawn cartoon than an
> actual person. The most annoying thing is that the picture often
> seems to get stuck for a second or so, kind of like watching a
> streaming video on the computer (using a 56k modem) and the video is
> not downloading fast enough. I sometimes get a little "snow" on my
> standard tv, but I can live with that much better than flashes of
> light, fake looking people, and picture delays.
>
> I also saw a demo HDTV at a department store that had the picture in
> blocks. It looked like someone took a 200X200 pixel photo on a
> computer and blew it up to 1200X1200. It was all large blocks of of
> broken up picture that seemed like it could not keep up with the speed
> of the change in the pciture. My guess would be that this set was
> defective, but not the one at the restaurrant. How the store expects
> to sell hdtvs using that POS for a demo is beyond me.
Hi,
HDTV sets come in many different shape and forms, Plasma, LCD,
projection(LCD, DLP) and different quality. It's not a matter of only
watching off the air program(some HD, some standard old format but more
and more HD now). Also when you play DVD material on HDTV set you'll
notice huge difference. And you can add good surround sound system to
create a home theater. Good picture is only half of it unless you
complement it with a good sound system.

Posted by Aloysius Q Roger-YoMama on August 20, 2007, 6:32 pm


...

>HDTV sets come in many different shape and forms, Plasma, LCD,
>projection(LCD, DLP) and different quality. It's not a matter of only
>watching off the air program(some HD, some standard old format but more
>and more HD now). Also when you play DVD material on HDTV set you'll
>notice huge difference. And you can add good surround sound system to
>create a home theater. Good picture is only half of it unless you
>complement it with a good sound system.

The entertainment industry in gen'l and tv in particular has gotten
so abusive of the viewing public that it is patently insane.

Screwy schedules, garbage-coverage, ram-it-down-your-throat IIGA's
(Idiot, Idiot Garbage Ads). There's no end to what the public
will accept.

400,000 spin doctors congregated at the bottom of the sea couldn't
completely separate fact from fiction from folderol, etc.

"The TV Industry Is Programming For An Audience Of Flogging Zombies!".

A few hundred more for <this>, a few hundred more for <that>,
pretty soon it's thousands (and they *love* it). Any price for
a Pretty, Pretty Picture.

It's gotten to be Cultural Horseshit: they oughta be paying me
thousands to watch -any- of it.

AQ

Posted by on August 20, 2007, 10:37 am
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either buy
> > a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
> > neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture, I
> > am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the only
> > means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck on
> > satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna, and
> > most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local channels.
>
> > I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I surely
> > will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental agency is
> > behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and the crappy
> > broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope that the
> > convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv than that on
> > the actual hdtvs.
>
> > Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new rooftop
> > antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
> > temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning to
> > buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will need a
> > HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would also work.
> > Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor or does that
> > need to be changed too?
>
> > If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about this
> > HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been the same
> > since the beginning of television, and now we got these republican
> > morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies can rob people
> > charging them ten or more times the price of a regular tv and giving
> > them a lousy picture. Just the same story as always these days, pay
> > more, and get less..... I wonder how much money the republicans are
> > getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>
> > James
>
> Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
> picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as the
> ones you receive on a regular TV set.

And on what basis are you making this claim that a std def picture on
ATSC isn't going to look as good as it would on NTSC? The picture
should be better. No more ghosting, no more snow. Now, I'm sure
there are pathological cases, where the ATSC transmitter is located
somewhere different from the NTSC one, blocked, greater distance,
etc. But that is the exception, not typical.



However, if it is a HD program the
> picture will be extremely clear and beautiful when viewed on A HDTV, if not
> something is very wrong.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -



Posted by Jim Yanik on August 20, 2007, 2:18 pm
trader4@optonline.net wrote in

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either
>> >buy
>> > a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
>> > neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture,
>> > I am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the
>> > only means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck
>> > on satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna,
>> > and most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local
>> > channels.
>>
>> > I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I
>> > surely will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental
>> > agency is behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and
>> > the crappy broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope
>> > that the convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv
>> > than that on the actual hdtvs.
>>
>> > Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new
>> > rooftop antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
>> > temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning
>> > to buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will
>> > need a HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would
>> > also work. Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor
>> > or does that need to be changed too?
>>
>> > If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about
>> > this HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been
>> > the same since the beginning of television, and now we got these
>> > republican morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies
>> > can rob people charging them ten or more times the price of a
>> > regular tv and giving them a lousy picture. Just the same story as
>> > always these days, pay more, and get less..... I wonder how much
>> > money the republicans are getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>>
>> > James
>>
>> Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
>> picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as
>> the ones you receive on a regular TV set.
>
> And on what basis are you making this claim that a std def picture on
> ATSC isn't going to look as good as it would on NTSC? The picture
> should be better. No more ghosting, no more snow.


also,no gradual degradation of picture;DTV either works great,or
freezes/pixellates and drops out.

Analog NTSC TV can get snowy,and/or ghost,but still be watchable.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

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