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HDTV antennas & complaints james12321 08-20-2007
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Posted by Freckles on August 20, 2007, 2:45 pm

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>> >I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either buy
>> > a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
>> > neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture, I
>> > am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the only
>> > means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck on
>> > satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna, and
>> > most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local channels.
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>> > I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I surely
>> > will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental agency is
>> > behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and the crappy
>> > broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope that the
>> > convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv than that on
>> > the actual hdtvs.
>>
>> > Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new rooftop
>> > antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
>> > temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning to
>> > buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will need a
>> > HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would also work.
>> > Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor or does that
>> > need to be changed too?
>>
>> > If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about this
>> > HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been the same
>> > since the beginning of television, and now we got these republican
>> > morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies can rob people
>> > charging them ten or more times the price of a regular tv and giving
>> > them a lousy picture. Just the same story as always these days, pay
>> > more, and get less..... I wonder how much money the republicans are
>> > getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>>
>> > James
>>
>> Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
>> picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as the
>> ones you receive on a regular TV set.
>
> And on what basis are you making this claim that a std def picture on
> ATSC isn't going to look as good as it would on NTSC? The picture
> should be better. No more ghosting, no more snow. Now, I'm sure
> there are pathological cases, where the ATSC transmitter is located
> somewhere different from the NTSC one, blocked, greater distance,
> etc. But that is the exception, not typical.

From personal experience and the experiences of many family members and
friends.

> However, if it is a HD program the
>> picture will be extremely clear and beautiful when viewed on A HDTV, if
>> not
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Posted by on August 20, 2007, 4:59 pm
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> >> >I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either buy
> >> > a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
> >> > neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture, I
> >> > am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the only
> >> > means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck on
> >> > satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna, and
> >> > most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local channels.
>
> >> > I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I surely
> >> > will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental agency is
> >> > behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and the crappy
> >> > broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope that the
> >> > convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv than that on
> >> > the actual hdtvs.
>
> >> > Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new rooftop
> >> > antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
> >> > temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning to
> >> > buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will need a
> >> > HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would also work.
> >> > Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor or does that
> >> > need to be changed too?
>
> >> > If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about this
> >> > HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been the same
> >> > since the beginning of television, and now we got these republican
> >> > morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies can rob people
> >> > charging them ten or more times the price of a regular tv and giving
> >> > them a lousy picture. Just the same story as always these days, pay
> >> > more, and get less..... I wonder how much money the republicans are
> >> > getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>
> >> > James
>
> >> Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
> >> picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as the
> >> ones you receive on a regular TV set.
>
> > And on what basis are you making this claim that a std def picture on
> > ATSC isn't going to look as good as it would on NTSC? The picture
> > should be better. No more ghosting, no more snow. Now, I'm sure
> > there are pathological cases, where the ATSC transmitter is located
> > somewhere different from the NTSC one, blocked, greater distance,
> > etc. But that is the exception, not typical.
>
> From personal experience and the experiences of many family members and
> friends.
>
>

Without clarification of what you were watching and on what eqpt, the
above statement is just about meaningless. For example,you could
take an ATSC signal that is being broadcast at low resolution, ie
programming that is not offered in HD and watch it on a 65" HDTV. Of
course that will look like crap, because you're blowing up a low
resolution signal. You could take the same programming in NTSC, put
it on the same big set and it will look like crap too. Put the same
thing on a small TV and it will look as good as NTSC. But some people
seeing it on the big TV attribute the problem to ATSC, or HDTV.






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> > However, if it is a HD program the
> >> picture will be extremely clear and beautiful when viewed on A HDTV, if
> >> not
> >> something is very wrong.- Hide quoted text -
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Posted by Freckles on August 20, 2007, 5:52 pm

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >> >I heard that in another year or so we will all be forced to either
>> >> >buy
>> >> > a HDTV or buy a converter. Having all standard tv sets, and I am
>> >> > neither able to afford a HDTV, nor am I impressed by their picture,
>> >> > I
>> >> > am not at all happy about this. I live in the country where the
>> >> > only
>> >> > means to get tv channels is to either spend half my paycheck on
>> >> > satellite, or use an antenna on the roof. I chose the antenna, and
>> >> > most of the time I get fairly good reception on a few local
>> >> > channels.
>>
>> >> > I suppose I will have no choice but to buy a convertor, but I surely
>> >> > will make a big fuss about it with whatever governmental agency is
>> >> > behind this conspiracy to promote the sales of HDTVs and the crappy
>> >> > broken up and spotty pictures they produce. I sure hope that the
>> >> > convertor will produce a better picture on a standard tv than that
>> >> > on
>> >> > the actual hdtvs.
>>
>> >> > Anyhow, my question is whether I will also have to buy a new rooftop
>> >> > antenna. My present antenna broke during a windstorm and I
>> >> > temporarily fixed it with some tubing and ducttape. I was planning
>> >> > to
>> >> > buy a new antenna when a friend told me that he thinks I will need a
>> >> > HDTV antenna too, but was not sure if an old antenna would also
>> >> > work.
>> >> > Does anyone know? Will I be able to use the same rotor or does that
>> >> > need to be changed too?
>>
>> >> > If anyone knows what government agency to file a complaint about
>> >> > this
>> >> > HDTV conspiracy, please let me know. Tv channels have been the same
>> >> > since the beginning of television, and now we got these republican
>> >> > morons forcing us to change just so the HDTV companies can rob
>> >> > people
>> >> > charging them ten or more times the price of a regular tv and giving
>> >> > them a lousy picture. Just the same story as always these days, pay
>> >> > more, and get less..... I wonder how much money the republicans are
>> >> > getting to shove this HDTV shit on us?
>>
>> >> > James
>>
>> >> Unless the program you are viewing on a HDTV is broadcast in HD, your
>> >> picture will not be very good. If fact it probably wont be as good as
>> >> the
>> >> ones you receive on a regular TV set.
>>
>> > And on what basis are you making this claim that a std def picture on
>> > ATSC isn't going to look as good as it would on NTSC? The picture
>> > should be better. No more ghosting, no more snow. Now, I'm sure
>> > there are pathological cases, where the ATSC transmitter is located
>> > somewhere different from the NTSC one, blocked, greater distance,
>> > etc. But that is the exception, not typical.
>>
>> From personal experience and the experiences of many family members and
>> friends.
>>
>>
>
> Without clarification of what you were watching and on what eqpt, the
> above statement is just about meaningless. For example,you could
> take an ATSC signal that is being broadcast at low resolution, ie
> programming that is not offered in HD and watch it on a 65" HDTV. Of
> course that will look like crap, because you're blowing up a low
> resolution signal. You could take the same programming in NTSC, put
> it on the same big set and it will look like crap too. Put the same
> thing on a small TV and it will look as good as NTSC. But some people
> seeing it on the big TV attribute the problem to ATSC, or HDTV.

What's so difficult to understand? When a program is broadcast in HD and
received on a HDTV the picture is fantastic, regardless of the TV size. If
the program is not HD and it is received on a HDTV, the picture quality is
not very good regardless of the screen size.

I spent many hours in a number of different stores looking at and finding
out about the different HDTVs because I'm in the market to buy one. NTSC and
ATSC are meaningless to me and I would bet to most other TV shoppers also.

I've been looking into HDTV's for a couple of years now, and the quality of
HDTVs keep going up and the prices keep going down. By February of 2009,
quality will most likely be even better and prices even lower.

>>
>> > However, if it is a HD program the
>> >> picture will be extremely clear and beautiful when viewed on A HDTV,
>> >> if
>> >> not
>> >> something is very wrong.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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>> - Show quoted text -
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Posted by Oren on August 20, 2007, 6:29 pm
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:52:22 -0400, "Freckles"

> I've been looking into HDTV's for a couple of years now, and the quality of
>HDTVs keep going up and the prices keep going down. By February of 2009,
>quality will most likely be even better and prices even lower.

A smart approach. If I guess - my 50" Plasma is eighth generation
plasma panel. Ninth or tenth generation panels have to be out by now.

The early fear of screen "burn-in" is now dissipated (I call it
similar to a screen saver for pc monitors in the new panel...)

Buy the latest/current generation when you buy. Buying in a store can
be deceptive under various lighting conditions.

--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

Posted by Rudy on August 21, 2007, 3:09 am
>NTSC and ATSC are meaningless to me and I would bet to most other TV
>shoppers also.

My HDTV has both types of tuners. I havent bothered to look up which does
what.
Picture is great even off local "antenna" (and my DISH,with which I've
declined Local Service, hence the antenna)



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