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HELP HELP anyone out there? Unions leaking on new hot water heater ConnetiCat 06-17-2008
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Posted by ConnetiCat on June 17, 2008, 12:15 am
I just connected my new hot water heater, and the hot/cold brass
unions are leaking no matter how tight I tighten them. What could I
have done wrong? All my solder is holding (so far). I'm afraid I'm
going to twist the pipes right off if I tighten these things anymore.
The last time I installed a hot water heater I used solid copper
unions, which seem more flexible and forgiving. HELP I am about to
cry.

Posted by stan on June 17, 2008, 12:40 am

>I just connected my new hot water heater, and the hot/cold brass
> unions are leaking no matter how tight I tighten them. What could I
> have done wrong? All my solder is holding (so far). I'm afraid I'm
> going to twist the pipes right off if I tighten these things anymore.
> The last time I installed a hot water heater I used solid copper
> unions, which seem more flexible and forgiving. HELP I am about to
> cry.

I've never done a new water heater install but did you use Teflon tape or a
thread sealant?

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Posted by Eric on June 17, 2008, 3:18 am
ConnetiCat wrote:

> I just connected my new hot water heater, and the hot/cold brass
> unions are leaking no matter how tight I tighten them. What could I
> have done wrong? All my solder is holding (so far). I'm afraid I'm
> going to twist the pipes right off if I tighten these things anymore.
> The last time I installed a hot water heater I used solid copper
> unions, which seem more flexible and forgiving. HELP I am about to
> cry.
They are leaking between the 2 halves right? Not at the threaded joints.
If thats so, then make sure the seating surfaces of each half is clean, shiney
and no scores or dings. You're after a metal to metal seal here, so dont put
any pipe dope or anything like that on them. sometimes a little (very little)
smear of cooking oil or vasoline on the surfaces can help. If you way
overtightened it you probably damaged the mating surfaces and its time for a
new union. On a new one, tighten till snug, thats close enough. I find most
people way over tighten every thing from bolts to pipes to oil filters.
Eric



Posted by Harry K on June 17, 2008, 10:54 am
> ConnetiCat wrote:
> > I just connected my new hot water heater, and the hot/cold brass
> > unions are leaking no matter how tight I tighten them. =A0What could I
> > have done wrong? =A0All my solder is holding (so far). =A0I'm afraid I'm=

> > going to twist the pipes right off if I tighten these things anymore.
> > The last time I installed a hot water heater I used solid copper
> > unions, which seem more flexible and forgiving. =A0HELP I am about to
> > cry.
>
> They are leaking between the 2 halves right? Not at the threaded joints.
> If thats so, then make sure the seating surfaces of each half is clean, sh=
iney
> and no scores or dings. You're after a metal to metal seal here, so dont p=
ut
> any pipe dope or anything like that on them. sometimes a little (very litt=
le)
> smear of cooking oil or vasoline on the surfaces can help. If you way
> overtightened it you probably damaged the mating surfaces and its time for=
a
> new union. On a new one, tighten till snug, thats close enough. I find mos=
t
> people way over tighten every thing from bolts to pipes to oil filters.
> Eric

And make sure the alignment is perfect. If they are off line, it can
cause leaks although with copper there is some fiddle room.

Harry K

Posted by Red Green on June 18, 2008, 12:58 am

> ConnetiCat wrote:
>
>> I just connected my new hot water heater, and the hot/cold brass
>> unions are leaking no matter how tight I tighten them. What could I
>> have done wrong? All my solder is holding (so far). I'm afraid I'm
>> going to twist the pipes right off if I tighten these things anymore.
>> The last time I installed a hot water heater I used solid copper
>> unions, which seem more flexible and forgiving. HELP I am about to
>> cry.
> They are leaking between the 2 halves right? Not at the threaded
> joints. If thats so, then make sure the seating surfaces of each half
> is clean, shiney and no scores or dings. You're after a metal to metal
> seal here, so dont put any pipe dope or anything like that on them.
> sometimes a little (very little) smear of cooking oil or vasoline on
> the surfaces can help. If you way overtightened it you probably
> damaged the mating surfaces and its time for a new union. On a new
> one, tighten till snug, thats close enough. I find most people way
> over tighten every thing from bolts to pipes to oil filters. Eric
>
>



> I find most people way
> over tighten every thing from bolts to pipes to oil filters.

Yep, and I've been guilty of both compression fittings and oil filters.


What seems to work for me:

Oil filters for 3/4 turn past contact - Mark it at 12, 3, 6 and 9
o'clock. Contact then tighten 9 hrs ahead no matter how "loose" it may
seem. Never leaks. Always comes off easy.

Compression fittings on water
         - If pkg says 1/2 turn past contact, that's it. No more
         no matter how "loose" it may seem. If it leaks
         (rare occurance) you can always give it another 1/16th turn.
         - for unspecified tightening, contact then just a very
         little more so it DOES leak. Tighten till it stops.

        
        Like cutting lumber, you can always make it shorter.         
                 




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