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HELP! - water does not come back On after turning the water main back On virginphone2000 12-17-2006
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on December 17, 2006, 10:19 pm



<> wrote in message
>
> i now find that I can turn the valve open forever - it does not hit any
> stop point.
>
> This fits with the idea that the gate has broken off the end of the
> stem and is stuck in place.
>
> Who owns this valve? Is it my cost to fix it - its the one between the
> meter and the house - comes after the water company shutoff vale on the
> meter. Bet its me huh?
>
> If so should i just calla plumber and not bother the water company?
>
> This will require a digout and valve replacement I guess...any idea
> what this will cost?

Before calling anyone, try pushing the valve stem in. If it moves, push in
and turn the valve to open I had a similar problem and that fixed it for me.
Well, maybe not really "fixed", but the water came back on after the valve
opened.

It that does not work, the valve will have to be repaired or replaced at
your expense. A plumber can either turn the main off or contact your water
department to do so.



Posted by Todd H. on December 18, 2006, 11:25 pm


virginphone2000@yahoo.com writes:

> i now find that I can turn the valve open forever - it does not hit any
> stop point.
>
> This fits with the idea that the gate has broken off the end of the
> stem and is stuck in place.
>
> Who owns this valve?

Typically, you own everything from the water company's Buffalo box on
your front lawn on in.

> Is it my cost to fix it - its the one between the meter and the
> house - comes after the water company shutoff vale on the meter. Bet
> its me huh?
>
> If so should i just calla plumber and not bother the water company?

A plumber is the right person to call. They may need help from the
city if they can't locate your B box at the street, or if there's too
much crud crusting it over preventing them from operating the cutoff
valve in the B box.

> This will require a digout and valve replacement I guess...any idea
> what this will cost?

It cost me exactly $533.00 to replace the 2 failed main cutoffs (one
on either side of water meter), plus $178 in wait time to get the city
water guy out there to clean up the B box. Chicagoland, union
master plumber and an assistant, large company, responded within 2
hrs of my call, weekday, during city water folk's regular working
hours. YMMV.

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/

Posted by Eigenvector on December 17, 2006, 7:42 pm



>I needed to replace an outside faucet that went to the garden hose.
>
> So turned off the water supply using valve out by the sidewalk that
> goes to my house.
>
> Water stopped OK. Replaced faucet OK.
>
> Now when I turn the water main back to the ON position the entire house
> still has NO WATER.
>
> I have left the main ON for about an hour now with faucets all closed
> off in case the pipes needed to fill up or something, but still no
> water - none- not even a dribble.
>
> I have repeatedly turned the main on and off - still no water. Could
> the valve be stuck in some way - it feels OK when I turn it back and
> forth. Could something have been dislodged like mineral buildup that
> blocks the line?
>
> This is a two story house.
>
> Anyone have any ideas whats going wrong here?

The valve may have stuck closed at the meter - it happens especially when
the valve is left open for decades at a time.

As for turning on the water, you need to leave a faucet OPEN when the water
is off so that air can be pushed out - but even so I would expect some water
flow.

Open the lowest and the highest cold water faucet in the house and try
again.
>



Posted by Ned on December 18, 2006, 9:08 am


On 17 Dec 2006 16:20:10 -0800, virginphone2000@yahoo.com wrote:

>I needed to replace an outside faucet that went to the garden hose.
>
>So turned off the water supply using valve out by the sidewalk that
>goes to my house.
>
>Water stopped OK. Replaced faucet OK.
>
>Now when I turn the water main back to the ON position the entire house
>still has NO WATER.
>
>I have left the main ON for about an hour now with faucets all closed
>off in case the pipes needed to fill up or something, but still no
>water - none- not even a dribble.
>
>I have repeatedly turned the main on and off - still no water. Could
>the valve be stuck in some way - it feels OK when I turn it back and
>forth. Could something have been dislodged like mineral buildup that
>blocks the line?
>
>This is a two story house.
>
>Anyone have any ideas whats going wrong here?

My sidewalk shutoff valve is before the meter and therefore the
city's responsibility. They will repair them on their dime.

Where the line runs into my slab, there is another valve and that one
is all mine.

A plumber charges about $250 to replace a valve when he has to dig,
but they are fast and effective.







Posted by Tom The Great on December 18, 2006, 1:56 pm


On 17 Dec 2006 16:20:10 -0800, virginphone2000@yahoo.com wrote:

>I needed to replace an outside faucet that went to the garden hose.
>
>So turned off the water supply using valve out by the sidewalk that
>goes to my house.
>
>Water stopped OK. Replaced faucet OK.
>
>Now when I turn the water main back to the ON position the entire house
>still has NO WATER.
>
>I have left the main ON for about an hour now with faucets all closed
>off in case the pipes needed to fill up or something, but still no
>water - none- not even a dribble.
>
>I have repeatedly turned the main on and off - still no water. Could
>the valve be stuck in some way - it feels OK when I turn it back and
>forth. Could something have been dislodged like mineral buildup that
>blocks the line?
>
>This is a two story house.
>
>Anyone have any ideas whats going wrong here?


IMHO, with the water off, install an inside isolation valve. Curb
valves can be differcult sometimes.

later,

tom @ www.Consolidated-Loans.info


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