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Posted by Tony Hwang on October 18, 2009, 10:06 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I have a 2600 sq ft 4 level split home in Canada. It was built in
>>>> 1985. This past spring we replaced our very non-effecient furnace with a
>>>> Tempstar 95% effecient gas furnace. It really is wonderful as the old
>>>> furnace would cause the house to feel sort of drafty and basement was
>>>> always
>>>> cold etc... Now I have this furnace that I love to bits BUT now since it
>>>> has
>>>> gotten colder outside these past two weeks, we have kept the doors and
>>>> windows closed and now have a high humidity problem inside the home IE:
>>>> fogged up windows (triple pane)...air basically feels clammy...bought a
>>>> humidistat and the house is sitting at around 50% humidity.... we use
>>>> bathroom fans in the shower, and have a fan over the stove when cooking
>>>> that
>>>> we use all the time...we keep lids on pots on the stove etc...We have no
>>>> children and only the two of us in this home so no long lingering showers
>>>> by
>>>> kids or anyone else....
>>>> I don't want to have to buy a dehumidifier over this new furnace..
>>>> sort of defeats the idea of trying to be energy effecient... Thinking of
>>>> trying to duct in an outside air source to feed the furnace?
>>>> Thoughts? Thanks... Jim
>>> 50% RH is "high"?
>> I guess to me it is...I also have an indoor swimming pool in the back yard
>> (not attached to house) and I keep the RH in that building to 30-35%...I
>> park my BMW in the same building with no issues.... Jim
>
>
> They run computer rooms at 50%. I guess I am just more used to a
> higher number in a home. I just looked and it is 44% in here right now
> and my lips are cracking and my throat feels dry..
>
Hi,
R.H. is function of temperature. Computer room is for the machine not
people. Too low humidity will cause static discharge and it is harmful
to the machines. Here in winter, most of time at home we keep it around
25% when it gets real cold(like -30C)
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Posted by IGot2P on October 19, 2009, 1:54 am
Tony Hwang wrote:
> gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I have a 2600 sq ft 4 level split home in Canada. It was
>>>>> built in
>>>>> 1985. This past spring we replaced our very non-effecient furnace
>>>>> with a
>>>>> Tempstar 95% effecient gas furnace. It really is wonderful as the old
>>>>> furnace would cause the house to feel sort of drafty and basement
>>>>> was always
>>>>> cold etc... Now I have this furnace that I love to bits BUT now
>>>>> since it has
>>>>> gotten colder outside these past two weeks, we have kept the doors and
>>>>> windows closed and now have a high humidity problem inside the home
>>>>> IE:
>>>>> fogged up windows (triple pane)...air basically feels
>>>>> clammy...bought a
>>>>> humidistat and the house is sitting at around 50% humidity.... we use
>>>>> bathroom fans in the shower, and have a fan over the stove when
>>>>> cooking that
>>>>> we use all the time...we keep lids on pots on the stove etc...We
>>>>> have no
>>>>> children and only the two of us in this home so no long lingering
>>>>> showers by
>>>>> kids or anyone else....
>>>>> I don't want to have to buy a dehumidifier over this new
>>>>> furnace..
>>>>> sort of defeats the idea of trying to be energy effecient...
>>>>> Thinking of
>>>>> trying to duct in an outside air source to feed the furnace?
>>>>> Thoughts? Thanks... Jim
>>>> 50% RH is "high"?
>>> I guess to me it is...I also have an indoor swimming pool in the back
>>> yard (not attached to house) and I keep the RH in that building to
>>> 30-35%...I park my BMW in the same building with no issues.... Jim
>> They run computer rooms at 50%. I guess I am just more used to a
>> higher number in a home. I just looked and it is 44% in here right now
>> and my lips are cracking and my throat feels dry..
> Hi,
> R.H. is function of temperature. Computer room is for the machine not
> people. Too low humidity will cause static discharge and it is harmful
> to the machines. Here in winter, most of time at home we keep it around
> 25% when it gets real cold(like -30C)
Here in SE Iowa our inside RH is currently 34% and outside it is 77%. In
fact, if you want to take a look just point your browser to
www.crsales.com/weather.htm and you will see my amateur weather station.
I don't look at the inside RH that often and quite honestly I was
surprised that it was that low.
Don
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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on October 19, 2009, 7:48 am
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21:54:32 -0400, gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
-snip-
>>> 50% RH is "high"?
>>I guess to me it is...I also have an indoor swimming pool in the back yard
>>(not attached to house) and I keep the RH in that building to 30-35%...I
>>park my BMW in the same building with no issues.... Jim
>They run computer rooms at 50%. I guess I am just more used to a
>higher number in a home. I just looked and it is 44% in here right now
>and my lips are cracking and my throat feels dry..
50% is high to the Aprilaire folks-- I've been dicking around off
and on for 2 weeks wondering why mine isn't kicking on. One year old
humidifier-- new furnace install. Bought a new transformer. . .
tested where I had it hooked up. Finally read the manual again.
Max humidity is 45%. Mine is 47%.
*That's* why it has that 'test' setting.<g>
Jim
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Posted by Tony Hwang on October 18, 2009, 9:02 pm
Jim wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a 2600 sq ft 4 level split home in Canada. It was built in
> 1985. This past spring we replaced our very non-effecient furnace with a
> Tempstar 95% effecient gas furnace. It really is wonderful as the old
> furnace would cause the house to feel sort of drafty and basement was always
> cold etc... Now I have this furnace that I love to bits BUT now since it has
> gotten colder outside these past two weeks, we have kept the doors and
> windows closed and now have a high humidity problem inside the home IE:
> fogged up windows (triple pane)...air basically feels clammy...bought a
> humidistat and the house is sitting at around 50% humidity.... we use
> bathroom fans in the shower, and have a fan over the stove when cooking that
> we use all the time...we keep lids on pots on the stove etc...We have no
> children and only the two of us in this home so no long lingering showers by
> kids or anyone else....
> I don't want to have to buy a dehumidifier over this new furnace..
> sort of defeats the idea of trying to be energy effecient... Thinking of
> trying to duct in an outside air source to feed the furnace?
> Thoughts? Thanks... Jim
>
>
Hi,
Fresh air intake is two ways, one for combustion for the furnace and one
going into return air duct. Wonder if it is damper controlled and it is
operational in your case. Too air tight home definitely needs outside
fresh air in proper amount. My house is R2000 spec. We have damper
controlled outside air intake. Yet I am running a power humidifier in
the winter. I am in Calgary that is why. Our winter air is extremely dry.
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Posted by Ed Pawlowski on October 18, 2009, 10:38 pm
> Hello,
> we have kept the doors and windows closed and now have a high humidity
> problem inside the home IE: fogged up windows (triple pane)...air
> basically feels clammy...bought a humidistat and the house is sitting at
> around 50% humidity....
In winter, I sometimes have to run a humidifier to get the humidity up to
50%.
Outside combustion air is quite common on high efficiency units but I'm not
sure it would lower the humidity level. Right now, the moist internal air
is being used and going out the stack and infiltration is replacing it with
the outside air. You may want to experiment a bit and crack a window open in
the room with the furnace and close it off from the rest of the house.
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