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Half of breaker panel hot, the other dead!?! SpyOwns 09-22-2006
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Posted by RayV on September 23, 2006, 12:18 pm

HeyBub wrote:
> It's possible. The breaker box I recently replaced (originally from the
> '60's) had all one leg on the left, the other on the right. It was the
> responsibility of the user to balance the load.

What does it mean to "balance the load"?

Should my fridge be on one leg and the furnace on the other?

I have two fridges, should I have them on opposite legs?

I have heard if you consistently run one leg more than the other your
bill will be higher because of the effect on the meter. T or F?


Posted by Tim Fischer on September 23, 2006, 1:52 pm


> I have heard if you consistently run one leg more than the other your
> bill will be higher because of the effect on the meter. T or F?

False. You're paying for kw/h's and the meter will measure both legs.

-Tim



Posted by Al Bundy on September 23, 2006, 10:58 pm
7A6YjYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com:

>
>
>> I have heard if you consistently run one leg more than the other your
>> bill will be higher because of the effect on the meter. T or F?
>
> False. You're paying for kw/h's and the meter will measure both legs.
>
> -Tim
>
>



Tim,

> ...You're paying for kw/h's

In general and practically it is BS for Joe Homeowner.

Now, 30 yrs ago I was chatting with a guy who was the Electrical
Engeneering dept head at tech college. This is an old and sketchy memory
and not sure what I recall vs think I recall. But I do remember the point
of the chat was that you can affect your power bill via capacitance
balancing if I recall. But I think the equipment and whatever else needed
would be cost more than you could save. More like an amusing hobby. Like
some people keep their PC Jr. (with sidecar!) running. May have been
something to do with you buy kwh's but on a lower level you buy sine waves.
Something about the phase and/or capacitance. Bottom line is it is (was
then) possible but not necessairly practical.

Posted by CJT on September 23, 2006, 11:37 pm
Al Bundy wrote:
> 7A6YjYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>
>>
>>
>>>I have heard if you consistently run one leg more than the other your
>>>bill will be higher because of the effect on the meter. T or F?
>>
>>False. You're paying for kw/h's and the meter will measure both legs.
>>
>>-Tim
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> Tim,
>
>
>>...You're paying for kw/h's
>
>
> In general and practically it is BS for Joe Homeowner.
>
> Now, 30 yrs ago I was chatting with a guy who was the Electrical
> Engeneering dept head at tech college. This is an old and sketchy memory
> and not sure what I recall vs think I recall. But I do remember the point
> of the chat was that you can affect your power bill via capacitance
> balancing if I recall. But I think the equipment and whatever else needed
> would be cost more than you could save. More like an amusing hobby. Like
> some people keep their PC Jr. (with sidecar!) running. May have been
> something to do with you buy kwh's but on a lower level you buy sine waves.
> Something about the phase and/or capacitance. Bottom line is it is (was
> then) possible but not necessairly practical.

Residential users don't generally pay extra for poor power factor
(caused by reactive loads), which is likely what you're thinking of.

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Posted by Toller on September 23, 2006, 2:24 pm

>
> HeyBub wrote:
>> It's possible. The breaker box I recently replaced (originally from the
>> '60's) had all one leg on the left, the other on the right. It was the
>> responsibility of the user to balance the load.
>
> What does it mean to "balance the load"?

Ideally you should draw the same on each leg. A balanced system will have
greater capacity and less voltage drop. Most 240v devices are
self-balanced, and since they are typically your biggest loads, you would
probably have to try to be off by enough to matter much.
>
> Should my fridge be on one leg and the furnace on the other?
>
> I have two fridges, should I have them on opposite legs?
>
> I have heard if you consistently run one leg more than the other your
> bill will be higher because of the effect on the meter. T or F?
>



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