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Health Concerns about Xmas Light Wires maradcliff 12-01-2006
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Posted by on December 1, 2006, 12:11 pm


I was looking at some xmas light sets at the store and the box had a
warning. It said something to the extent that the wire insulation
contains LEAD, which is dangerous in California.

WTF....... How can the INSULATION contain lead? Yeah, I know the
copper wires are likely soldered to the sockets and possibly with lead
solder, and most light bulbs contain lead solder on the tip of the
base. (not these mini sets though). But how in the hell can the
plastic coating (insulation) contain lead? That would be a dangerous
condition and a shorting condition. I kid you not..... They used the
word insulation, or was it the coating of the wires. Either way, that
means the plastic part.

Of course, I dont live in California, so I dont have to worry about
lead..... In fact in my state it's considered a meal if some salt and
pepper is added... :) :) :)

I think CA is becoming a country within a country with all their laws
and regulations....

Mark

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Posted by on December 2, 2006, 8:58 am



maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
> I was looking at some xmas light sets at the store and the box had a
> warning. It said something to the extent that the wire insulation
> contains LEAD, which is dangerous in California.
>
> WTF....... How can the INSULATION contain lead? Yeah, I know the
> copper wires are likely soldered to the sockets and possibly with lead
> solder, and most light bulbs contain lead solder on the tip of the
> base. (not these mini sets though). But how in the hell can the
> plastic coating (insulation) contain lead? That would be a dangerous
> condition and a shorting condition. I kid you not..... They used the
> word insulation, or was it the coating of the wires. Either way, that
> means the plastic part.
>
> Of course, I dont live in California, so I dont have to worry about
> lead..... In fact in my state it's considered a meal if some salt and
> pepper is added... :) :) :)
>
> I think CA is becoming a country within a country with all their laws
> and regulations....
>
> Mark

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Posted by on December 2, 2006, 9:19 am



maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
> I was looking at some xmas light sets at the store and the box had a
> warning. It said something to the extent that the wire insulation
> contains LEAD, which is dangerous in California.
>
> WTF....... How can the INSULATION contain lead?

m:

PVC in its natural state is hard. Wire insulation has plasticizers
added,
and various heavy metal salts, often containing lead, are added to
prevent
degradation of the PVC or plasticizers (degradation seen in old,
stiffened
wire that has been in the sun too long, or a cracking car dashboard).

Exposure amounts from this lead are extremely low. IBM found that
wiping a foot of wire insulation with sweaty hands could pick up 0.7 -
5
micrograms of lead compounds. The usual daily intake of lead from
diet and breathing, considered quite safe and normal, is up to 15
micrograms. (All plants contain some lead, as does airborne dust.)
So don't be chewing on wire (allegedly some electronics worker was
poisoned from such a habit. If you have a habit of chewing wire you
got problems other than lead poisoning, bud). Don't get too overly
nervous about it either. These California laws apparently take little
or no account of exposure amounts, and so we see fasteners made
from free-machining leaded brass with this warning. They are
extremely alarmist and non-scientific, and actually do harm, because
they dilute the impact of other warning labels by their ubiquity.

Cordially yours:
G P


Posted by Mark Lloyd on December 2, 2006, 10:52 am


On 2 Dec 2006 06:19:17 -0800, pawlowsk002@gannon.edu wrote:

>
>maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
>> I was looking at some xmas light sets at the store and the box had a
>> warning. It said something to the extent that the wire insulation
>> contains LEAD, which is dangerous in California.
>>
>> WTF....... How can the INSULATION contain lead?
>
>m:
>
>PVC in its natural state is hard. Wire insulation has plasticizers
>added,
>and various heavy metal salts, often containing lead, are added to
>prevent
>degradation of the PVC or plasticizers (degradation seen in old,
>stiffened
>wire that has been in the sun too long, or a cracking car dashboard).
>
>Exposure amounts from this lead are extremely low. IBM found that
>wiping a foot of wire insulation with sweaty hands could pick up 0.7 -
>5
>micrograms of lead compounds. The usual daily intake of lead from
>diet and breathing, considered quite safe and normal, is up to 15
>micrograms. (All plants contain some lead, as does airborne dust.)
>So don't be chewing on wire (allegedly some electronics worker was
>poisoned from such a habit. If you have a habit of chewing wire you
>got problems other than lead poisoning, bud). Don't get too overly
>nervous about it either. These California laws apparently take little
>or no account of exposure amounts, and so we see fasteners made
>from free-machining leaded brass with this warning. They are
>extremely alarmist and non-scientific, and actually do harm, because
>they dilute the impact of other warning labels by their ubiquity.
>
>Cordially yours:
>G P

Yes. I would be more likely to observe warning labels if there weren't
so many. One string of lights can have FIVE warning labels this year.
--
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Posted by on December 2, 2006, 11:25 am


On 2 Dec 2006 06:19:17 -0800, pawlowsk002@gannon.edu wrote:

>So don't be chewing on wire (allegedly some electronics worker was
>poisoned from such a habit. If you have a habit of chewing wire you
>got problems other than lead poisoning, bud).
You don't chew the wire, just the insulation. Yes it was common until
this lead thing came up.

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