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Posted by trainfan1 on March 5, 2007, 7:55 am
mm wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 21:33:38 -0500, trainfan1
>
>
>>
>>Better drain all the plumbing & traps before bug-out.
>>
>>Or... as long as I'm paying the electric bill(as a New York Tax Payer)
>>for your friend, & I'll assume I'm picking up the tab for the natural
>>gas & water bills too, I'll tell you how to fritter away some more of my
>>money:
>>
>>Instead of an extension cord, borrow as much garden hose as he can, run
>>it throughout the house in the areas most susceptible to freezing in one
>>continuous loop, terminating in a sink or drain. Let the hose fill/run
>>slowly connected to the hot water tap furthest from the heater.
>>
>>For even better heat retention, fill the bathtub with the loose/drain
>>end of the hose and let the cooled water go out the overflow(adjust the
>>flow rate accordingly).
>
>
> This last one sounds to me like a terrible idea. Many, most or all
> overflows barely drain at all. I don't know why -- they look big --
> but I have tested and barely anything flows out.
>
> If one wanted to fill the tub, he could do it from the tub's own
> faucet, and when it gets close to the top, turn off the water and make
> sure it's not dripping. If it is dripping even some, being away from
> the house for 12 hours or mroe could easily lead to lots of overflow.
>
> Then let the water from the sink faucets run into the sinks
> themselves. Again don't count on the overflow accepting more than a
> few drops, although that's probably enough to keep the pipe from
> freezing.
>
> But there is a furhter problem. most of my faucets when left running
> slowly gradually run more slowly until they don't run at all. To make
> sure they don't stop running, they would have to be left on more than
> the overflow could handle. And if they can progressively run more
> slowly, I would think some would gradually run more quickly, so if a
> faucet were set to run no faster than the overflow can handle, it
> might start running faster later.
>
> And none of this takes care of the toilets. The water supply to the
> tanks could be turned off, and the tanks emptied by flushing, but the
> built-in trap could still freeze and break the toilet. how does one
> drain a trap? Better to put some sort of antifreeze in it. They may
> not have ethylene glycol handy, but as I posted about before, anything
> that dissolves will have some effect. I didn't want to use salt in my
> car, and others thought sugar was bad (though no one gave a reason)
> but they will both work in a toilet. A mixture of both is probably
> even more effective. That is, a cup of salt and a cup of sugar would
> be iiuc much more effective than two cups of either one of them. And
> add some rubbing alcohol. It won't evaporate when cold, unlike in the
> car's radiator (although I think alcohol would have lasted for a few
> weeks there too.)
>
>
>>Rob
>
>
It's my money, I'll spend it as I see fit!
Fix your overflows!
Rob
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