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Help! Boiler choices? sgarden 11-12-2008
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Posted by sgarden on November 12, 2008, 12:45 pm


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Does anyone have experience with the Biasi oil-fired boiler? Am changing
out an really old worn out system and am installing a wood/coal boiler as
the primary heat source, and need a oil fired system as back-up.

My next door neighbor is a pipe fitter and he will help me put these in.
His brother is a plumber who can get items only avaialbel to contractors.
They both like Weil McLain and recommend a big old one pass Weil McLain
system that weighs 595 pounds, has 14.9 gallons of water content, and
requires a 7" flue. They also recomend Beckett burners. Total about $2700
plus copper and some parts.

Spending a few days on the internet I find the Italian made Biasi is now
widely available. It's a 3 pass unit that is better insulated, weighs 307
pounds, contains only 4.7 gallons of water and comes with a Riello burner
for $1650 plus copper etc. Seems like a more efficient design. Very
resonable cost for a back up unit.

Or since I am not young, should I put in the better Buderus 3 pass boiler,
also very well insulated, weighs 403 pounds, contains 10.8 gallons of
water with a Reiello burner. Cost is now about $3500 with all the copper,
etc., but a tried and true unit.



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Posted by ransley on November 12, 2008, 4:25 pm
On Nov 12, 11:45=A0am, secretgarden_at_trans-video_dot_net@foo.
(sgarden) wrote:
> -------------------------------------
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Biasi oil-fired boiler? Am changing
> out an really old worn out system and am installing a wood/coal boiler as
> the primary heat source, and need a oil fired system as back-up.
>
> My next door neighbor is a pipe fitter and he will help me put these in.
> His brother is a plumber who can get items only avaialbel to contractors.
> They both like Weil McLain and recommend a big old one pass Weil McLain
> system that weighs 595 pounds, has 14.9 gallons of water content, and
> requires a 7" flue. They also recomend Beckett burners. Total about $2700
> plus copper and some parts. =A0
>
> Spending a few days on the internet I find the Italian made Biasi is now
> widely available. It's a 3 pass unit that is better insulated, weighs 307
> pounds, contains only 4.7 gallons of water and comes with a Riello burner
> for $1650 plus copper etc. Seems like a more efficient design. Very
> resonable cost for a back up unit.
>
> Or since I am not young, should I put in the better Buderus 3 pass boiler=
,
> also very well insulated, weighs 403 pounds, contains 10.8 gallons of
> water with a Reiello burner. Cost is now about $3500 with all the copper,
> etc., but a tried and true unit.
>
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Or maybe a System 2000

Posted by RBM on November 12, 2008, 4:29 pm

>
>
> -------------------------------------
>
> Does anyone have experience with the Biasi oil-fired boiler? Am changing
> out an really old worn out system and am installing a wood/coal boiler as
> the primary heat source, and need a oil fired system as back-up.
>
> My next door neighbor is a pipe fitter and he will help me put these in.
> His brother is a plumber who can get items only avaialbel to contractors.
> They both like Weil McLain and recommend a big old one pass Weil McLain
> system that weighs 595 pounds, has 14.9 gallons of water content, and
> requires a 7" flue. They also recomend Beckett burners. Total about $2700
> plus copper and some parts.
>
> Spending a few days on the internet I find the Italian made Biasi is now
> widely available. It's a 3 pass unit that is better insulated, weighs 307
> pounds, contains only 4.7 gallons of water and comes with a Riello burner
> for $1650 plus copper etc. Seems like a more efficient design. Very
> resonable cost for a back up unit.
>
> Or since I am not young, should I put in the better Buderus 3 pass boiler,
> also very well insulated, weighs 403 pounds, contains 10.8 gallons of
> water with a Reiello burner. Cost is now about $3500 with all the copper,
> etc., but a tried and true unit.
>
>
>
> ##-----------------------------------------------##
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> Building Construction and Maintenance Forum
> Web and RSS access to your favorite newsgroup -
> alt.home.repair - 323530 messages and counting!
> ##-----------------------------------------------##

I just had a similar conversation with my oil burner service tech. He is
starting to see a few Biasi units, and a few Buderus units, but refuses to
stock parts for either. I work in NY and a good portion of my business is
residential and commercial boiler wiring. Peerless and Weil-Mclain are still
the most common boilers around here, as are Beckett burners. I wire Buderus
logamatics, and Tekmar boiler high efficiency controls, as well as wall hung
condensing boilers, etc. , and they are pretty efficient, but for my buck,
I'd prefer something a little less high tech, a little less efficient, but a
whole lot more reliable. I want the thing that every service guy has parts
for on the truck, and knows how to install and adjust. I see the writing on
the wall, an do believe that in the near future, higher tech more efficient
boilers will be common, but until that point, I'd go with your neighbor's
recommendation



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