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Posted by mm on March 5, 2006, 2:29 am
On 3 Mar 2006 14:46:29 -0800, jixelub@gmail.com wrote:
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>Installing the intake pipe so that it takes air from the inside of the
>house is not unusual and outside venting is often listed as optional in
>the installation instructions.
Really. You're saying it's not safe to burn a gas oven to heat a
house poorly (less than fully), but it's ok to vent an entire furnace
to the inside of the house?
Oh, the new gas furnaces don't make CO, because they are so well made?
Can you guarantee that one will always work so well?
btw. what do the installation instructions for the OP's furnace say?
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>Of course, as has been stated, this means that the air intake within
>the house will create a vacuum and suck cold air into the house,
>reducing the efficiency of the furnace (though not a great deal).
>If the basement where the intake pipe is located is essentially closed
>off from the heated part of the house, then it is effectively the same
>as being outside the house anyway.
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Posted by jixelub on March 5, 2006, 9:15 am
If you are going to comment on my reply, you should at least read it.
You should also read Viktor's original question.
No one is talking about venting an entire furnace inside the house. We
are talking about the intake pipe that Viktor's installer chose to
leave taking air from the inside. The exhaust pipe was installed to
the outside, as it would have to be.
My point was that, though is is more efficient in most situations,
installing the intake pipe to the outside of the house is often stated
as optional in the installation instructions. There may be code
violations, however, in some areas.
(Bubba is right to point out that I was wrong about the furnace's being
installed in an unheated area, btw)
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Posted by mm on March 5, 2006, 12:34 pm
On 5 Mar 2006 06:15:18 -0800, jixelub@gmail.com wrote:
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>If you are going to comment on my reply, you should at least read it.
If you are going to suggest I didn't read your post, you should at
least quote what I said about it and quote what you had said that you
think I didn't read.
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>You should also read Viktor's original question.
Viktor's question had nothing to do with it. I was replying to you.
Viktor's question had been more than 2 days earlier, and that's when I
read it, but I just saw your reply. I don't know that it limited
itself to the contents of Viktor's post.
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>No one is talking about venting an entire furnace inside the house. We
>are talking about the intake pipe that Viktor's installer chose to
>leave taking air from the inside. The exhaust pipe was installed to
>the outside, as it would have to be.
Previous text restored:On 3 Mar 2006 14:46:29 -0800, jixelub@gmail.com
wrote:
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>>Jixelub wrote:
>>>Installing the intake pipe so that it takes air from the inside of the
>>>house is not unusual and outside venting is often listed as optional in
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>>>the installation instructions.
>mm replied
>>Really. You're saying it's not safe to burn a gas oven to heat a
>>house poorly (less than fully), but it's ok to vent an entire furnace
>>to the inside of the house?
Apparently you meant "venting" to refer to intake. Every meaning but
one in the dictionary associates venting with output. Maybe input is
an accepted definition in the trade, but if you knew non-trade uses of
the word, you wouldn't assume I didn't read your post.
vent n.
1. A means of escape or release from confinement; an outlet: give
vent to one's anger.
2. An opening permitting the escape of fumes, a liquid, a gas, or
steam.
3. The small hole at the breech of a gun through which the charge
is ignited.
4. Zoology. The excretory opening of the digestive tract in animals
such as birds, reptiles, amphibians, and fish.
5. Geology.
1. The opening of a volcano in the earth's crust.
2. An opening on the ocean floor that emits hot water and
dissolved minerals.
v. tr.
1. To express (one's thoughts or feelings, for example), especially
forcefully.
2. To release or discharge (steam, for example) through an opening.
3. To provide with a vent.
v. intr.
1. To vent one's feelings or opinions.
2. To be released or discharged through an opening.
3. To rise to the surface of water to breathe. Used of a marine
mammal. [This one is neutral, but derives not from verb but from the
the vent, the hole on top of whales etc.]
vent n.
An opening into a cavity or canal, especially one through which
contents are discharged.
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>My point was that, though is is more efficient in most situations,
>installing the intake pipe to the outside of the house is often stated
>as optional in the installation instructions. There may be code
>violations, however, in some areas.
OK. So you're talking about the intake. No argument with that.
Cheers
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>(Bubba is right to point out that I was wrong about the furnace's being
>installed in an unheated area, btw)
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Posted by jixelub on March 5, 2006, 9:24 am
If you are going to comment on my reply, you should at least read it.
You should also read the original question from Viktor.
No one is talking about venting the entire furnace inside the house. We
are referring to the intake pipe that Viktor's installer chose to leave
taking air from the inside. The exhaust pipe was installed to the
outside, as it would have to be.
My point was that taking air from the outside, thought more efficient
in most situations, is often stated as optional in the installation
instructions. There may be code violations, however, in some areas
for this.
(Bubba is right to point out that I was wrong about the furnace's being
installed in an unheated place, byw)
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Posted by Tony Hwang on March 3, 2006, 9:04 pm
intersoft4you@yahoo.com wrote:
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> Hi everybody,
> I have just installed new High Efficiency furnace (Keeprite). In the
> manual 2 pipes are depicted (Exhaust and intake) running outside of the
> house. However, the installer has left the intake pipe inside of the
> basement (the pipe is about 20 inches long above the furnace). He says
> it's OK to have an intake pipe to suck the air from within the
> basement. Is it?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Viktor
>
Hi,
Could be code violation. New furnace needs fresh air from outside just
for it's own combustion. This is only logical.
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>house is not unusual and outside venting is often listed as optional in
>the installation instructions.