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Posted by aka-SBM on June 10, 2006, 11:57 am
> According to CR:
> Contractors they survey say units with a SEER of 11 to 14 tend to hold
> up best. SEER of more than 14 tend to be more complex, with more that
> can go wrong.
>
> Any opinion on this? It seems that anything above SEER 14 is just a
> waste of money. Are you really going to save that much more a month to
> make it worth it? And will it give you more trouble?
>
> RAJ
>
Thats because the AVERAGE contractor has no damn clue about higher SEER
units, and the extra control board scares the hell out of the uneducated.
Instead of 5 or 6 wires to the outside unit, its now got suddenly 10 or 12
and they are panicked...OMG..where does this one go? Talking heat pump
there..
On straight AC, instead of just the two control wires, now its got 6...and
its soooooooo complicated....
Of course, with proper training, and proper install practice, they are now,
to some of us..as simple as the old ones, and we are NOT seeing any issues
with the 16, and 18 SEER units.
AS far as the money savings goes, its like when fuel goes up an extra penny,
and some fool drives all over town to save 10 cents on a fill up, but yet,
he spends a buck in gas looking for the cheap stuff, or the neighbor up the
road that was only getting 15MPG in his paid for fairly new SUV but goes out
and spends 30 grand on a car that wont even get twice that, but it looked
good on paper.
And the fuel savings sure wont justify the new car payment.
And then there is the contractor that is scared of the new refrigerant. OF
COURSE its bad..LOL...of course its gonna fail sooner..of COURSE hes got to
get new training and tools, and its not cheap.
You have some contractors that are so scared of the new stuff, that they
price it so far out of the ballpark, that you dont want it..There is a
company here that flat out refuses to install R410a equipment as long as he
can get R22 units. Thats great..whatever floats his boat. He has effectively
cut his market by more than half, and of course hes not gonna get the proper
training that a legitimate contractor was getting 3 years ago to get ready
for the fact that R22 is a dinasaur. Its times up..in 4 years, its not even
going to be made in the US. Why not go on and learn your future now, than to
wait and allow it to bite you when everyone else that had a clue went on,
started training, and is now confident with the new tech?
Screw Consumer Reports..never seen a single report in there that was
applicable to anything I owned. Product X, bad..according to them, yet no
one I knew or if I owned it, gave a moments problem.
You know with CR its about money right?
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Posted by Jay Stootzmann on June 10, 2006, 1:36 pm
Look at your options. Run your numbers for your location. I would suggest
planning for energy costs to double at LEAST within the next 10 years.
> According to CR:
> Contractors they survey say units with a SEER of 11 to 14 tend to hold
> up best. SEER of more than 14 tend to be more complex, with more that
> can go wrong.
>
> Any opinion on this? It seems that anything above SEER 14 is just a
> waste of money. Are you really going to save that much more a month to
> make it worth it? And will it give you more trouble?
>
> RAJ
>
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Posted by DIDO on June 10, 2006, 4:26 pm
As I said once before SEER is more for manufacturing gain
then it is for consumer, however every body got they own opinion
Few years ago when solar panels came out it was thing of future
Yes there is some benefits in some area but does the consumer
actually benefit from it or just break even? can you actually take
anybody word for it like contractor who is making living on it
or some one who made full of him self by installing some thing
that barely got savings from it to pay for maintenance
or manufacture who is trying to benefit from it.
I am sorry but you are the one who must decide and pay for it
Good Luck from Dido
> According to CR:
> Contractors they survey say units with a SEER of 11 to 14 tend to hold
> up best. SEER of more than 14 tend to be more complex, with more that
> can go wrong.
>
> Any opinion on this? It seems that anything above SEER 14 is just a
> waste of money. Are you really going to save that much more a month to
> make it worth it? And will it give you more trouble?
>
> RAJ
>
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