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Home shower drip repair (how do I get the Delta faucet apart)? Donna 05-11-2008
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Posted by Donna on May 11, 2008, 10:45 pm
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/64rlmo

Hi Joe,
That was a great idea to poke around the Delta site.
http://www.deltafaucet.com/wps/portal/deltacom/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKLNzSPN3cNBMmB2WGO-pGoggHxZk5IYkH63vq-Hvm5qfoB-gW5oRHljo6KAB45wpM!/delta/base64xml/L3dJdyEvd0ZNQUFzQUMvNElVRS82XzE3XzdFUg!!?WCM_GLOBAL_CONTEXT=http://render1.deltafaucet.com/wps/wcm/connect/www.deltafaucet.com/Customer+Support/Frequently+Asked+Questions/Leaks/My+Tub+or+Shower+faucet+leaks

I found this exploded diagram:
http://tinyurl.com/5fb5y3
Which I reproduced in the slide show on flickr at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/show/with/2484362698/

Specifically, it's this picture in the set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-72157603940232052/

I see some people say to remove the "escutcheon" and others say leave it
be. Unfortunately, from the exploded diagram above, I can't tell still how
to remove the "cartridge".

Can someone confirm if I have to remove the escutcheon (which means cutting
it away from the tile since it seems glued in) or if I have to somehow
twist out the "cartridge"?

Thanks for your help - without you - I'd never have the courage to try
this!

Donna

Posted by Big_Jake on May 11, 2008, 11:06 pm
> On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:40:41 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >http://tinyurl.com/64rlmo
>
> Hi Joe,
> That was a great idea to poke around the Delta
site.http://www.deltafaucet.com/wps/portal/deltacom/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xP...
>
> I found this exploded diagram:
> http://tinyurl.com/5fb5y3
> Which I reproduced in the slide show on flickr at:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/show/wit...
>
> Specifically, it's this picture in the
set:http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-7215760394023...
>
> I see some people say to remove the "escutcheon" and others say leave it
> be. Unfortunately, from the exploded diagram above, I can't tell still how
> to remove the "cartridge".
>
> Can someone confirm if I have to remove the escutcheon (which means cutting
> it away from the tile since it seems glued in) or if I have to somehow
> twist out the "cartridge"?
>
> Thanks for your help - without you - I'd never have the courage to try
> this!
>
> Donna

The diagram is for a "ball type" Delta faucet, which is not what you
have. Spin the brass ring off with a pipe wrench or channellocks
(gently) and then pull the cartridge out. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE
WATER OFF, and let the water pressure out of hot and cold before you
do this, or you will get really wet, and might send parts flying as
you take it apart.

Here is a pictorial of what you need to do, but I still don't think
you need to take off the escutcheon.

http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/replseal.html


JK

Posted by Bob Thompson on May 15, 2008, 2:17 pm
> Here is a pictorial of what you need to do, but I still don't think
> you need to take off the escutcheon.
> http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/...

My comments on the handyman article should you attempt this repair
yourselves.
http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/plumbing/bathtub/faucet1/deltarot/replsea=
l.html
http://tinyurl.com/4y3bwl

They were omnipotent when they said "we had to study the situation for
a few minutes before we realized that the brass collar was actually a
separate part from the rest of the brass valve housing" and "Once the
retaining collar was removed, the rest was obvious." The same ideas
were expressed in this thread.

But the actual steps they took in that handyman article were wrong not
only because they used pliars instead of a strap wrench but because
they took apart parts that even they didn't use so they never needed
to take apart those part in the first place. There was no need to pry
off the o ring on the tip of the valve and to pry off the brass
temperature limit valve either. They were just blindly taking things
apart because they could not because they should.

Otherwise it was a good article and the pictures are excellent.
Combined with this thread I would think someone could now do the job
in about ten minutes.
They even explained why there is a screw hole which isn't used in a
handle shower faucet but which is used in a knob shower faucet.


Posted by on May 11, 2008, 7:48 pm
wrote:

>> I'm stuck - I don't know how to get the shower faucet apart?
>> I posted 15 pictures of the steps here
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/sets/72157603940232052/
>
>It might be hard to see the key pics so to help you help me, I just made
>extensive annotations of the pics for you to help me.
>
>This is basically where I started
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2484369038/in/set-72157603940232052/
>
>And, this is basically where I'm stuck!
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2483559087/in/set-72157603940232052/
>
>Do you know what next to remove to get this Delta shower faucet apart?
>Thanks,
>Donna

IIRC, you need to remove the escutcheon (The big silver plate that
covers the hole) In behind it, you'll probably find a big U shaped
brass or spring steel retainer clip that holds the plastic cartridge
in place in the housing. Pull up on it to remove it. The little
brass limit stop on the front of the white cartridge in you picture
usually slips off, the cartridge gets set to the noon position, and
with the retainer clip off, the cartridge slips right out coming
forward. If you have to use any significant force you are doing
something wrong. The only things keeping it in place at that point
are a couple of O-rings.

Posted by Donna on May 11, 2008, 11:06 pm
On Sun, 11 May 2008 17:48:38 -0600, hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:

> IIRC, you need to remove the escutcheon (The big silver plate that
> covers the hole) In behind it, you'll probably find a big U shaped
> brass or spring steel retainer clip that holds the plastic cartridge
> in place in the housing. Pull up on it to remove it.

Here's a Delta diagram of what's behind the "escutcheon".
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donnaohl/2484557563/in/set-72157603940232052/

That exploded diagram might help you understand what's next - but - it
doesn't help me figure out what's the next part to remove.

I've heard two different answers ... which one is the right one?

That is, should I cut off the escutcheon with a knife or should I try to
pull or twist the brass tube thingey with channel locks?

Donna



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