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Posted by Phil Again on May 22, 2008, 7:47 am
Any suggestions on Hot Water Tank brands?
What about "Sears"? Have their Hot Water Tank gone the way of "Crapmans?"
Thanks.
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Posted by ransley on May 22, 2008, 10:23 am
> Any suggestions on Hot Water Tank brands?
>
> What about "Sears"? =A0Have their Hot Water Tank gone the way of "Crapmans=
?"
>
> Thanks.
If I were shopping I would buy by the EF rating, thats how much money
goes into heating water, regular tanks are from 50-60 EF, on a 50 EF
half of what you pay for is wasted. There are regular tanks up to 70
EF, Condensing tanks of about 83EF. There is even one of 93 EF. There
are full comparison charts online. Sears is Sears, AO Smith is top
quality. But a Sears might be just fine.
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Posted by Phil Again on May 22, 2008, 1:54 pm
>
> If I were shopping I would buy by the EF rating, thats how much money
> goes into heating water, regular tanks are from 50-60 EF, on a 50 EF
> half of what you pay for is wasted. There are regular tanks up to 70 EF,
> Condensing tanks of about 83EF. There is even one of 93 EF. There are
> full comparison charts online. Sears is Sears, AO Smith is top quality.
> But a Sears might be just fine.
Thanks for the reply.
For the basic dimensions and gallons I wanted, the local in-stock options
all had an EF of 56 (Nat Gas). I shopped at 4 places, including Sears,
and all were same EF, same height and width, and recovery gallons
rating. Except for label (GE, Whirlpool, Kenmore, etc.) they really
looked as if they could have come from same factory.
If I could have waited for special order, or willing to pay for basic
rebuild connection to chimney and maybe a chimney flue re-lining, or
electrician to re-wire basement and main electrical service panel maybe I
could have gotten a higher EF.
What surprised me was a local requirement for a Nat Gas municipal permit
and Nat Gas inspection of house by suburb municipal employee. See what
this is all about when it happens. Cost me about $70.00, All furnaces
and water tanks replacements get hit with this permit and inspection in
my community. Just a guess on my part but it sounds like a flue
drafting / down-draft and gas leak inspection for older homes.
Later
Phil
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Posted by Robert Neville on May 22, 2008, 9:26 pm
>Except for label (GE, Whirlpool, Kenmore, etc.) they really
>looked as if they could have come from same factory.
>
There's only like 4 HWH manufacturers in the US, so they probably did. What
cracks me up is the "Whirlpool" branded HWHs at Lowes. Whirlpool doesn't make
HWH - it's a license so that Lowes can have an exclusive brand.
>What surprised me was a local requirement for a Nat Gas municipal permit
>and Nat Gas inspection of house by suburb municipal employee. See what
>this is all about when it happens. Cost me about $70.00, All furnaces
>and water tanks replacements get hit with this permit and inspection in
>my community. Just a guess on my part but it sounds like a flue
>drafting / down-draft and gas leak inspection for older homes.
That annoyed me as well. It was a recent local change to code here the last time
I had to change a tank. The inspector walked into the garage, glanced at the
HWH, said that the 15 year old original drywall mud was too close to the flue as
it passed through the ceiling and green tagged it.
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Posted by N8N on May 23, 2008, 8:07 am
> >Except for label (GE, Whirlpool, Kenmore, etc.) they really
> >looked as if they could have come from same factory.
>
> There's only like 4 HWH manufacturers in the US, so they probably did.
Yup, I'm thinking Rheem/Ruud, American Craftmaster, State, and one
other whose name I forget - I think they only sell to contractors?
Anyway, those are all of the mass-market (e.g. not high end with
stainless tanks etc.) water heaters that you're likely to buy, and
they are all comparable in quality and price. FWIW I see a lot of
State heaters in commercial installations (I notice that stuff for
some reason) but I don't know if that actually means anything.
nate
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