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How do I make a storm door close when the window (not screen) is on it? trader-of-some-jacks 03-11-2008
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Posted by mm on March 12, 2008, 12:27 am
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:52:08 -0400, trader-of-some-jacks

>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:06:07 -0400, trader-of-some-jacks
>>
>>>My front storm door is mounted so that the hinges are on the east,
>>>meaning that the open part of the door is exposed to the breezes much
>>>of the time, and this winter, we've had some very windy days (40-70
>>>mph).
>>>
>>I think this is a troll, and I'm not going to play.
>
>I don't mind at all that you can't be bothered to offer a constructive
>suggestion to the very real problem I posted about my storm door not
>closing and latching under some circumstances.
>
>Hope you don't mind at all that I can't solve at least two very real
>problems that you seem to have: that you're a judgmental jerk; and

"A very real problem"?

Maybe you're not trolling, but it is clear that if you increase the
closing force of your closer to allow for the wind, it will close too
strongly when there is no wind. And furthermore your closer wasn't
strong enough to do the first half anyhow.

So it's obvious that the solution during windy periods is to close the
door with your hand. Is that so hard? Since you haven't said a word
about that possibility, I think your being a troll was likely. Maybe
still is.

>that, with roughly 450 usenet posts in the first 70 days or so of this
>year (according to google), you seem to have considerably more idle
>time on your hands than a worthwhile person would.
>
>Don't let my storm door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.


Posted by dadiOH on March 12, 2008, 7:07 am
trader-of-some-jacks wrote:
> My front storm door is mounted so that the hinges are on the east,
> meaning that the open part of the door is exposed to the breezes
> much of the time, and this winter, we've had some very windy days
> (40-70 mph).
>
> The wind can damage the door if it flings it open too violently, and
> this of course scares and concerns me.
>
> But when my main front door is shut, and the storm door has the
> windows (not screens) in, the door won't shut all the way until it
> clicks firmly closed and latched. The air resistance as it closes,
> especially the final couple inches into the doorframe, slows the
> door enough that it won't shut.
>
> I don't have a problem in the summer - with the screens in, the door
> closes and latches, even with the main front door closed.
>
> I don't have a problem in the winter when the door closes and the
> main front door is open (such as when I'm entering the house).
>
> The only problem is in the common scenario where people are leaving
> the house through the front door. They pull the main door shut,
> then the storm door won't close to latching.
>
> I've played with the resistance/closing speed settings in the storm
> door, and even when I can make it slam hard with the main front door
> open, it won't close to latching with the main front door closed.
>
> So what am I supposed to do, without just leaving the screens in
> even during the winter, if I want the door to properly close in the
> winter?

Close it by hand.

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Posted by Marilyn & Bob on March 12, 2008, 11:39 pm
> trader-of-some-jacks wrote:
>> My front storm door is mounted so that the hinges are on the east,
>> meaning that the open part of the door is exposed to the breezes
>> much of the time, and this winter, we've had some very windy days
>> (40-70 mph).
>>
>> The wind can damage the door if it flings it open too violently, and
>> this of course scares and concerns me.
>>
>> But when my main front door is shut, and the storm door has the
>> windows (not screens) in, the door won't shut all the way until it
>> clicks firmly closed and latched. The air resistance as it closes,
>> especially the final couple inches into the doorframe, slows the
>> door enough that it won't shut.
>>
>> I don't have a problem in the summer - with the screens in, the door
>> closes and latches, even with the main front door closed.
>>
>> I don't have a problem in the winter when the door closes and the
>> main front door is open (such as when I'm entering the house).
>>
>> The only problem is in the common scenario where people are leaving
>> the house through the front door. They pull the main door shut,
>> then the storm door won't close to latching.
>>
>> I've played with the resistance/closing speed settings in the storm
>> door, and even when I can make it slam hard with the main front door
>> open, it won't close to latching with the main front door closed.
>>
>> So what am I supposed to do, without just leaving the screens in
>> even during the winter, if I want the door to properly close in the
>> winter?
>
> Close it by hand.
>
> --
>
> dadiOH

If the inner door is wood, how about putting in a spring loaded mail slot in
that door. When the storm door closes, it would push in the mail slot
allowing the trapped air to enter the house and the storm door to close.
--
Peace,
BobJ




Posted by Tomes on March 16, 2008, 12:17 am
"trader-of-some-jacks" ...
> My front storm door is mounted so that the hinges are on the east,
> meaning that the open part of the door is exposed to the breezes much
> of the time, and this winter, we've had some very windy days (40-70
> mph).
>
> The wind can damage the door if it flings it open too violently, and
> this of course scares and concerns me.
>
> But when my main front door is shut, and the storm door has the
> windows (not screens) in, the door won't shut all the way until it
> clicks firmly closed and latched. The air resistance as it closes,
> especially the final couple inches into the doorframe, slows the door
> enough that it won't shut.
>
> I don't have a problem in the summer - with the screens in, the door
> closes and latches, even with the main front door closed.
>
> I don't have a problem in the winter when the door closes and the main
> front door is open (such as when I'm entering the house).
>
> The only problem is in the common scenario where people are leaving
> the house through the front door. They pull the main door shut, then
> the storm door won't close to latching.
>
> I've played with the resistance/closing speed settings in the storm
> door, and even when I can make it slam hard with the main front door
> open, it won't close to latching with the main front door closed.
>
> So what am I supposed to do, without just leaving the screens in even
> during the winter, if I want the door to properly close in the winter?

Here is a thought that I have not seen posted yet. My storm door did not
want to finish closing, not because of the air pressure, but because there
was resistance where the latch thingy slides by before it snaps into its
hole. I sprayed it with lithium grease (both the pointy latch thingy and
the door jamb where it slides against it). I find that I need to reapply
the lithium grease about every 6 months or so. Now it just slides right
closed every time.
Tomes


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