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How do I use an impact wrench mm 09-21-2006
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Posted by mm on September 21, 2006, 4:24 pm
BTW, I've alread put liquid wrench on days ago and again yesterday,
tapped all around the secrew heads each time.

The impact wrench fits perfectly into the 3 oil filter screw slots
(Phillips) and pretty well into the other two slots.

I could heat these screws with a propane torch, but <sheepishly> I
don't want to change the finish on the oil filter (aluminum, maybe),
or burn off the paint on the starter motor cover. Will the propane
torch do this, and will it help much to get these screws out?

I'm willing to wait until the engine is running and the parts are hot
to clean the oil filter -- I plan to change the oil a second time
after 3 or 4 hours of use -- but I would like to oil the starter motor
before I try to use it. The kick starter doesn't seem to engage, and
I'm hoping some hot oil will free that up too, so I think I really
need the starter motor for a while.




How do I use an impact wrench?

Which way should it turn when I'm compressing it if I am about to to
use it to unscrew a bolt or screw? Which direction are you looking
from it? :)


If I push the front of wrench back into the back of the wrench it
turns either clockwise or counterclockwise, when looked at from the
heal of the wrench, depending on the setting. (The opposite of
course when looked at from the tip of the wrench)

Which way should it turn if I want to use it to unscrew a bolt or
screw? Which way are you looking from it? :)



I'm trying to unscrew the screws holding on the oil filter of my
recently acquired 69 Honda, not run for 35 years. Also the starter
motor cover. So I can clean and oil them respectively.

I have this problem every time I need to use this wrench and I figure
it out, but since I'm over 50, or maybe since I was 20, I can't
remember from one time to the next! This time, I think I have it, but
none of 5 screws will budge!


Posted by Charlie Morgan on September 21, 2006, 5:54 pm

>BTW, I've alread put liquid wrench on days ago and again yesterday,
>tapped all around the secrew heads each time.
>
>The impact wrench fits perfectly into the 3 oil filter screw slots
>(Phillips) and pretty well into the other two slots.
>
>I could heat these screws with a propane torch, but <sheepishly> I
>don't want to change the finish on the oil filter (aluminum, maybe),
>or burn off the paint on the starter motor cover. Will the propane
>torch do this, and will it help much to get these screws out?
>
>I'm willing to wait until the engine is running and the parts are hot
>to clean the oil filter -- I plan to change the oil a second time
>after 3 or 4 hours of use -- but I would like to oil the starter motor
>before I try to use it. The kick starter doesn't seem to engage, and
>I'm hoping some hot oil will free that up too, so I think I really
>need the starter motor for a while.
>

1969 Honda? You are going to need to remove the clutch and carefully separate
the plates which are all very stuck together. Resist the temptation to try and
unstick them by coasting and dumping the clutch while in gear. That will cost
you a transmission rebuild.

CWM

Posted by mm on September 22, 2006, 1:02 am

>
>>I'm willing to wait until the engine is running and the parts are hot
>>to clean the oil filter -- I plan to change the oil a second time
>>after 3 or 4 hours of use -- but I would like to oil the starter motor
>>before I try to use it. The kick starter doesn't seem to engage, and
>>I'm hoping some hot oil will free that up too, so I think I really
>>need the starter motor for a while.
>>
>
>1969 Honda? You are going to need to remove the clutch and carefully separate
>the plates which are all very stuck together.

You're right about that. 3 points. Thanks for the warning.

> Resist the temptation to try and
>unstick them by coasting and dumping the clutch while in gear. That will cost
>you a transmission rebuild.

Another guy told me that he frees it up by just pulling the clutch in
and rolling the bike forwards and backwards a few feet. That sounds a
lot gentler than what you told me not to do. Do you think that would
be safe for the bike?

If not, can I get to the clutch just from the side, to the side of the
clutch cable, which is where one of the clutch adjustments is?

Are there only 2 clutch plates?


I have the owners manual, but don't have a shop manual and don't know
where to get one for something this old. And I didn't think I would
need one just to get it running again. It ran when it was parked.


>CWM


Posted by Charlie Morgan on September 22, 2006, 6:27 am

>
>>
>>>I'm willing to wait until the engine is running and the parts are hot
>>>to clean the oil filter -- I plan to change the oil a second time
>>>after 3 or 4 hours of use -- but I would like to oil the starter motor
>>>before I try to use it. The kick starter doesn't seem to engage, and
>>>I'm hoping some hot oil will free that up too, so I think I really
>>>need the starter motor for a while.
>>>
>>
>>1969 Honda? You are going to need to remove the clutch and carefully separate
>>the plates which are all very stuck together.
>
>You're right about that. 3 points. Thanks for the warning.
>
>> Resist the temptation to try and
>>unstick them by coasting and dumping the clutch while in gear. That will cost
>>you a transmission rebuild.
>
>Another guy told me that he frees it up by just pulling the clutch in
>and rolling the bike forwards and backwards a few feet. That sounds a
>lot gentler than what you told me not to do. Do you think that would
>be safe for the bike?
>

I don't think that will work, especially after 30 years. There are multiple
plates, and at best you will free one, and at worst you will clean cogs off of
some gears. It really needs to be taken apart, separated and cleaned properly.

>If not, can I get to the clutch just from the side, to the side of the
>clutch cable, which is where one of the clutch adjustments is?
>
>Are there only 2 clutch plates?
>

There's a whole bunch of alternating metal plates and friction plates.


>
>I have the owners manual, but don't have a shop manual and don't know
>where to get one for something this old. And I didn't think I would
>need one just to get it running again. It ran when it was parked.
>

There are aftermarket shop manuals from publishers such as Clymer. Usually not
very expensive. You can also check your local library. They often have a
collection of these.

To be honest, after sitting that long, I'd be tearing it down and checking for
rust inside before I ran it. Carbs are probably gummed up as well. That was a
Loooong sleep.

CWM


Posted by on September 22, 2006, 1:22 am
wrote:

>BTW, I've alread put liquid wrench on days ago and again yesterday,
>tapped all around the secrew heads each time.
>
>The impact wrench fits perfectly into the 3 oil filter screw slots
>(Phillips) and pretty well into the other two slots.
>
>I could heat these screws with a propane torch, but <sheepishly> I
>don't want to change the finish on the oil filter (aluminum, maybe),
>or burn off the paint on the starter motor cover. Will the propane
>torch do this, and will it help much to get these screws out?
>
>I'm willing to wait until the engine is running and the parts are hot
>to clean the oil filter -- I plan to change the oil a second time
>after 3 or 4 hours of use -- but I would like to oil the starter motor
>before I try to use it. The kick starter doesn't seem to engage, and
>I'm hoping some hot oil will free that up too, so I think I really
>need the starter motor for a while.
>
>
>
>
>How do I use an impact wrench?
>
>Which way should it turn when I'm compressing it if I am about to to
>use it to unscrew a bolt or screw? Which direction are you looking
>from it? :)
>
>
>If I push the front of wrench back into the back of the wrench it
>turns either clockwise or counterclockwise, when looked at from the
>heal of the wrench, depending on the setting. (The opposite of
>course when looked at from the tip of the wrench)
>
>Which way should it turn if I want to use it to unscrew a bolt or
>screw? Which way are you looking from it? :)
>
>
>
>I'm trying to unscrew the screws holding on the oil filter of my
>recently acquired 69 Honda, not run for 35 years. Also the starter
>motor cover. So I can clean and oil them respectively.
>
>I have this problem every time I need to use this wrench and I figure
>it out, but since I'm over 50, or maybe since I was 20, I can't
>remember from one time to the next! This time, I think I have it, but
>none of 5 screws will budge!

Dude
Either you're a troll, or a complete idiot. (or both)
Put the tools away before you kill yourself or someone else, or
destroy something. You are not capable of SAFELY using tools. The
only tools you are (hopefully) capable of using are your yellow pages
and telephone. Look under "Auto Repair", then call a mechanic !!!!

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