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How many wheelbarrows for a yard of concrete? alvinamorey 10-15-2007
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Posted by Harry K on October 15, 2007, 11:18 am
> On 15 Oct, 09:25, alvinamo...@notmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I will be having a delivery this week of concrete. I am getting 3.25
> > yards. Two and a quarter yards will make a 9 x 20 foot driveway
> > extension in front of my garage. The other yard will go into a nearby
> > shed to make a cement floor to replace the dirt floor, which is 6 X 12
> > ft., plus a small pad outside the door from whatever is left.
>
> > For the driveway extension the truck can drive right to it. But the
> > shed is not accessible by truck. That one yard needs to be taken into
> > the shed with wheelbarrows. I am trying to comprehend how many
> > (average size) wheelbarrow trips will have to be made to carry that
> > one yard to the shed. I am asking to get a rough idea so I know how
> > many friends and wheelbarrows to have on hand. The delivery company
> > said that their delivery guys cant spend a lot of time at one place,
> > so I need to be ready to get the cement moved fast.
>
> > I know someone is going to ask me what I mean by average size
> > wheelbarrow. I dont know how they are rated, but the two that I have
> > are the ones sold at most garden supply places, department and
> > hardware stores for the average homeowner. My guess is the "bucket"
> > is about 28" wide, 35" long, and 10" deep (of course the corners are
> > rounded and the bucket tapers in at the bottom.
>
> > My guess (and only a guess), is one wheelbarrow load can hold about
> > 2.5 cubic feet, (without spilling all over the place), and a full yard
> > of concrete is 27 cubic feet. So my guess is about 11 trips. Does
> > this sound about right?
>
> > One other thing. Since I plan to use whatever concrete is left over
> > to make a pad in front of the shed door, outside, what is the best way
> > to make an adjustible form? My idea is to make the form the actual
> > width I want (which is 41"), then just leave the end board (away from
> > the door) without nails or stakes, so I can fasten it after the cement
> > is there and I know how much cement is left. If by chance the pad
> > seems too small, I have a few bags of redi-crete to use up, so I can
> > mix them.
>
> > Thanks
>
> > Alvin
>
> Any chance of the delivery company using a boom truck to deliver the
> concrete directly to where the shed will be or is that way too
> expensive for this size job?
>
> http://www.putzmeister.com/products/boompumps/index.cfm- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

First; Unless you have wheeled mud before, do not fill the barrow
full. Even if you have, do not fill the barrow full. Better several
extra trips than spilling a load. Concrete is _heavy_.

Second: Be sure the path to the shed is smooth and firm. If needed,
lay down sheets of plywood overlapped so the loaded barrows don't run
into the 'lap'.


Harry K


Posted by Rudy on October 15, 2007, 11:45 pm

> Any chance of the delivery company using a boom truck to deliver the
> concrete directly to where the shed will be or is that way too
> expensive for this size job?
>
NO ! Its $ 300 minimum charge PLUS time for a line pump/boom here

USE the 3 or 4 wheelbarrow method



Posted by RicodJour on October 15, 2007, 10:18 am
On Oct 15, 9:25 am, alvinamo...@notmail.com wrote:
> I will be having a delivery this week of concrete. I am getting 3.25
> yards. Two and a quarter yards will make a 9 x 20 foot driveway
> extension in front of my garage. The other yard will go into a nearby
> shed to make a cement floor to replace the dirt floor, which is 6 X 12
> ft., plus a small pad outside the door from whatever is left.
>
> For the driveway extension the truck can drive right to it. But the
> shed is not accessible by truck. That one yard needs to be taken into
> the shed with wheelbarrows. I am trying to comprehend how many
> (average size) wheelbarrow trips will have to be made to carry that
> one yard to the shed. I am asking to get a rough idea so I know how
> many friends and wheelbarrows to have on hand. The delivery company
> said that their delivery guys cant spend a lot of time at one place,
> so I need to be ready to get the cement moved fast.
>
> I know someone is going to ask me what I mean by average size
> wheelbarrow. I dont know how they are rated, but the two that I have
> are the ones sold at most garden supply places, department and
> hardware stores for the average homeowner. My guess is the "bucket"
> is about 28" wide, 35" long, and 10" deep (of course the corners are
> rounded and the bucket tapers in at the bottom.

Fill it with five gallon buckets of water. Count the buckets. Do an
online conversion from gallons to volume, tweak to get cubic yards.

> My guess (and only a guess), is one wheelbarrow load can hold about
> 2.5 cubic feet, (without spilling all over the place), and a full yard
> of concrete is 27 cubic feet. So my guess is about 11 trips. Does
> this sound about right?

Maybe. Homeowner wheelbarrows are in that neighborhood, maybe
slightly more. Contractor wheelbarrows hold about 6 CF.

> One other thing. Since I plan to use whatever concrete is left over
> to make a pad in front of the shed door, outside, what is the best way
> to make an adjustible form? My idea is to make the form the actual
> width I want (which is 41"), then just leave the end board (away from
> the door) without nails or stakes, so I can fasten it after the cement
> is there and I know how much cement is left. If by chance the pad
> seems too small, I have a few bags of redi-crete to use up, so I can
> mix them.

Fine.

R


Posted by beecrofter on October 15, 2007, 10:22 am
On Oct 15, 9:25 am, alvinamo...@notmail.com wrote:
> I will be having a delivery this week of concrete. I am getting 3.25
> yards. Two and a quarter yards will make a 9 x 20 foot driveway
> extension in front of my garage. The other yard will go into a nearby
> shed to make a cement floor to replace the dirt floor, which is 6 X 12
> ft., plus a small pad outside the door from whatever is left.
>
> For the driveway extension the truck can drive right to it. But the
> shed is not accessible by truck. That one yard needs to be taken into
> the shed with wheelbarrows. I am trying to comprehend how many
> (average size) wheelbarrow trips will have to be made to carry that
> one yard to the shed. I am asking to get a rough idea so I know how
> many friends and wheelbarrows to have on hand. The delivery company
> said that their delivery guys cant spend a lot of time at one place,
> so I need to be ready to get the cement moved fast.
>
> I know someone is going to ask me what I mean by average size
> wheelbarrow. I dont know how they are rated, but the two that I have
> are the ones sold at most garden supply places, department and
> hardware stores for the average homeowner. My guess is the "bucket"
> is about 28" wide, 35" long, and 10" deep (of course the corners are
> rounded and the bucket tapers in at the bottom.
>
> My guess (and only a guess), is one wheelbarrow load can hold about
> 2.5 cubic feet, (without spilling all over the place), and a full yard
> of concrete is 27 cubic feet. So my guess is about 11 trips. Does
> this sound about right?
>
> One other thing. Since I plan to use whatever concrete is left over
> to make a pad in front of the shed door, outside, what is the best way
> to make an adjustible form? My idea is to make the form the actual
> width I want (which is 41"), then just leave the end board (away from
> the door) without nails or stakes, so I can fasten it after the cement
> is there and I know how much cement is left. If by chance the pad
> seems too small, I have a few bags of redi-crete to use up, so I can
> mix them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alvin

I always guessed 2 tons per yard. And 300lbs is about all I want to
hump around in a wheelbarrow. 13-14 trips


Posted by DerbyDad03 on October 15, 2007, 10:39 am
On 15 Oct, 09:25, alvinamo...@notmail.com wrote:
> I will be having a delivery this week of concrete. I am getting 3.25
> yards. Two and a quarter yards will make a 9 x 20 foot driveway
> extension in front of my garage. The other yard will go into a nearby
> shed to make a cement floor to replace the dirt floor, which is 6 X 12
> ft., plus a small pad outside the door from whatever is left.
>
> For the driveway extension the truck can drive right to it. But the
> shed is not accessible by truck. That one yard needs to be taken into
> the shed with wheelbarrows. I am trying to comprehend how many
> (average size) wheelbarrow trips will have to be made to carry that
> one yard to the shed. I am asking to get a rough idea so I know how
> many friends and wheelbarrows to have on hand. The delivery company
> said that their delivery guys cant spend a lot of time at one place,
> so I need to be ready to get the cement moved fast.
>
> I know someone is going to ask me what I mean by average size
> wheelbarrow. I dont know how they are rated, but the two that I have
> are the ones sold at most garden supply places, department and
> hardware stores for the average homeowner. My guess is the "bucket"
> is about 28" wide, 35" long, and 10" deep (of course the corners are
> rounded and the bucket tapers in at the bottom.
>
> My guess (and only a guess), is one wheelbarrow load can hold about
> 2.5 cubic feet, (without spilling all over the place), and a full yard
> of concrete is 27 cubic feet. So my guess is about 11 trips. Does
> this sound about right?
>
> One other thing. Since I plan to use whatever concrete is left over
> to make a pad in front of the shed door, outside, what is the best way
> to make an adjustible form? My idea is to make the form the actual
> width I want (which is 41"), then just leave the end board (away from
> the door) without nails or stakes, so I can fasten it after the cement
> is there and I know how much cement is left. If by chance the pad
> seems too small, I have a few bags of redi-crete to use up, so I can
> mix them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alvin

Oh, sorry, forgot to offer an answer to your question...

From: http://www.doityourself.com/stry/patiosteps

"One cubic yard of ready-mix yields nine contractor-size wheelbarrows
of concrete. "

From:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/06/AR2007070601019.html

"A construction wheelbarrow full of concrete can weigh nearly 400
pounds."

AFAIK a contractor's wheelbarrow is roughly 6 Cu ft. Since your's
appear to be much smaller, 11 trips seems too few. Of course, it also
depends on how much weight a person and or a given wheelbarrow can
handle.

Actually, what you want to use is the 2 wheeled, spout nosed
wheelbarrow shown on page 2 of this document. Look for the red NEW!
graphic.

http://www.brentwoodindustries.com/spg/pdfs/BrentwoodWB.pdf

Here's a "fun" site for estimating the cost of concrete construction,
including info moving material in wheelbarrows. This link should take
you to page 553 - ignore the references to horse drawn carts, but pay
close attention to the comparison of "active" vs. "lazy" workers. ;-)

http://tinyurl.com/34s69v




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