If you were Registered and logged in, you could reply and use other advanced thread options
|
Posted by Eric in North TX on May 16, 2008, 4:04 pm
On May 16, 2:20 pm, davids...@nospam.com wrote:
> We have a pole barn. It's covered with modern painted ribbed steel.
> The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> under them. This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> would run down the wall.
> I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> sliding door, so there isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? (Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. It can be the modern
> K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> (if they still sell it). I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> want the water from the roof kept away from the door. Besides the mud
> in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> Does anyone know how to deal with this? Do they make a special gutter
> for this sort of application? (I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> in appearance).
> Thanks for all help.
> David
I did that on my pole barn. I used metal hangers intended to attach to
the roof. If you look at the gutter supplies they should be there.
I just used a self tapping screw with the rubber washer in each, + a
few screws though the roof into the back flange of the gutter just
to keep it from swaying, could only do that at the high end though.
Here is more or less what I used:
http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-31351/Detail
|
|
Posted by cshenk on May 16, 2008, 4:28 pm
.> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? (Cutting off the tin is not an option).
blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
Call me stupid here, but can you just curl the metal up to make a lip over
the door section without damaging the metal? Just make a sort of funnel
with the existing roof so rain hits to the sides of the door? Like a really
heavy deep socket wrench and work it in parts til you have a 'lip curl' at
least 2 inches deep, might need 3?
If that doesnt work for you, and i'm right in asumptions that look isnt all
that important, 2 other ideas come to mind.
1- using some sort of rivet to attach, take a flange of metal with a 90
degree bend and high enough for your purposes, and just attach this to the
end of the roof as far as you need it to go. Use caulk if the little bits
that get past this is a problem. (It wont be as pretty or easy as just
curling the metal, but it will work better).
2- Using some old tires cut up, and again a rivet gun, put those up along
just like #1 above. The problem is this wont last as well and i suspect in
hot weather they will curl back up too strongly for a longer term fix.
|
|
Posted by evodawg on May 16, 2008, 4:44 pm
cshenk wrote:
>
> Call me stupid here, but can you just curl the metal up to make a lip over
> the door section without damaging the metal? Just make a sort of funnel
> with the existing roof so rain hits to the sides of the door? Like a
> really heavy deep socket wrench and work it in parts til you have a 'lip
> curl' at least 2 inches deep, might need 3?
>
> If that doesnt work for you, and i'm right in asumptions that look isnt
> all that important, 2 other ideas come to mind.
>
> 1- using some sort of rivet to attach, take a flange of metal with a 90
> degree bend and high enough for your purposes, and just attach this to the
> end of the roof as far as you need it to go. Use caulk if the little bits
> that get past this is a problem. (It wont be as pretty or easy as just
> curling the metal, but it will work better).
>
> 2- Using some old tires cut up, and again a rivet gun, put those up along
> just like #1 above. The problem is this wont last as well and i suspect
> in hot weather they will curl back up too strongly for a longer term fix.
Well you said it stupid!!! This application must take a "special bracket"
which is probably available. Google gutters metal roof, or pole barn, no
soffit. See what you come up with.
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"
Running Mandriva release 2008.0 free-i586 using KDE on i586
|
|
Posted by aemeijers on May 17, 2008, 4:32 am
evodawg wrote:
> cshenk wrote:
>> Call me stupid here, but can you just curl the metal up to make a lip over
>> the door section without damaging the metal? Just make a sort of funnel
>> with the existing roof so rain hits to the sides of the door? Like a
>> really heavy deep socket wrench and work it in parts til you have a 'lip
>> curl' at least 2 inches deep, might need 3?
>> If that doesnt work for you, and i'm right in asumptions that look isnt
>> all that important, 2 other ideas come to mind.
>> 1- using some sort of rivet to attach, take a flange of metal with a 90
>> degree bend and high enough for your purposes, and just attach this to the
>> end of the roof as far as you need it to go. Use caulk if the little bits
>> that get past this is a problem. (It wont be as pretty or easy as just
>> curling the metal, but it will work better).
>> 2- Using some old tires cut up, and again a rivet gun, put those up along
>> just like #1 above. The problem is this wont last as well and i suspect
>> in hot weather they will curl back up too strongly for a longer term fix.
>
> Well you said it stupid!!! This application must take a "special bracket"
> which is probably available. Google gutters metal roof, or pole barn, no
> soffit. See what you come up with.
>
So far, this answer is the closest. I've seen plenty of modern barns
with a gutter or eyebrow above the sliding doors. Go to the local supply
house that the pole barn builders use, or even back to whoever built
your barn, if they are still in business. I'll bet the wholesaler where
they get their fittings carries a purpose-built material that will fit
the corrugation patterns to attach a short awning and/or gutter to the
roof edge or wall above the door. You definitely aren't the only person
that ever had this problem. You do also need a sloped apron on the
ground in front of the door, sticking out at least a couple of feet.
Concrete would be best, but well-drained gravel would also work. If
nothing else, some short sections of the same roof panels to extend the
roof a couple of feet, tucked under the existing panels far enough the
reach the framing, would help a lot. Roof is probably screwed down, so
unscrewing the bottom couple of feet should not be a big deal. Slide
the panels under, and replace the old screws with slightly longer ones
with the built-in gaskets.
--
aem sends...
|
|
Posted by ransley on May 16, 2008, 4:36 pm
On May 16, 2:20=A0pm, davids...@nospam.com wrote:
> We have a pole barn. =A0It's covered with modern painted ribbed steel.
> The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> under them. =A0This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> would run down the wall. =A0
> I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> sliding door, so there =A0isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? =A0(Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. =A0It can be the modern
> K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> (if they still sell it). =A0I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> want the water from the roof kept away from the door. =A0Besides the mud
> in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> Does anyone know how to deal with this? =A0Do they make a special gutter
> for this sort of application? =A0(I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> in appearance). =A0
> Thanks for all help.
> David
I cant see it, but screwing the gutter straps to the roof is the
normal way.the gutter then hangs under the roof.
|
Page 2 of 4 < 1 2 3 > last >>
| Similar Threads | Posted | | Rain gutter drainage - how? | April 13, 2006, 3:44 pm |
| Rain Gutter for Gazebo? | October 30, 2006, 4:20 pm |
| Rain bypassing gutter | November 2, 2007, 1:59 am |
| Rain Gutter Low Slope roof | November 1, 2006, 2:26 pm |
| Bird's nest in rain gutter | April 26, 2008, 2:15 pm |
| How to attach to formica? | April 19, 2006, 3:52 pm |
| how to attach shower arm | November 16, 2007, 9:42 pm |
| re-attach ceramic towel rod | May 14, 2006, 12:07 pm |
| How to attach vanity top to base | December 11, 2006, 3:44 pm |
| Tie to attach joist to beam above it | February 8, 2007, 11:11 pm |
|
|
Yahoo! 
Google 
Windows Live 
del.icio.us 
digg 
Netscape 
XML Sitemap
> The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> under them. This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> would run down the wall.
> I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> sliding door, so there isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? (Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. It can be the modern
> K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> (if they still sell it). I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> want the water from the roof kept away from the door. Besides the mud
> in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> Does anyone know how to deal with this? Do they make a special gutter
> for this sort of application? (I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> in appearance).
> Thanks for all help.
> David