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Posted by mike on May 16, 2008, 6:21 pm
On May 16, 12:20=A0pm, davids...@nospam.com wrote:
> We have a pole barn. =A0It's covered with modern painted ribbed steel.
> The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> under them. =A0This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> would run down the wall. =A0
> I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> sliding door, so there =A0isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? =A0(Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. =A0It can be the modern
> K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> (if they still sell it). =A0I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> want the water from the roof kept away from the door. =A0Besides the mud
> in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> Does anyone know how to deal with this? =A0Do they make a special gutter
> for this sort of application? =A0(I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> in appearance). =A0
> Thanks for all help.
> David
Or, you could not install gutters at all and work on the ground
drainage: For example:
http://tinyurl.com/5mvkrv
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Posted by mike on May 16, 2008, 6:24 pm
> On May 16, 12:20=A0pm, davids...@nospam.com wrote:
> > We have a pole barn. =A0It's covered with modern painted ribbed steel.
> > The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> > end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> > under them. =A0This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> > would run down the wall. =A0
> > I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> > sliding door, so there =A0isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> > during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> > The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> > hanging past the wall? =A0(Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> > I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. =A0It can be the modern
> > K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> > (if they still sell it). =A0I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> > want the water from the roof kept away from the door. =A0Besides the mud=
> > in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> > water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> > during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> > Does anyone know how to deal with this? =A0Do they make a special gutter=
> > for this sort of application? =A0(I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> > and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> > in appearance). =A0
> > Thanks for all help.
> > David
> Or, you could not install gutters at all and work on the ground
> drainage: =A0For example:
> http://tinyurl.com/5mvkrv- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -
P.S. When a gutter gets plugged up with leaves and fills up with
water it gets HEAAAAAVY. Just something to keep in mind. You got
8.33 lb per gallon of water.
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Posted by S. Barker on May 16, 2008, 7:40 pm
And how would that help the rain from blowing in his open door?
s
Or, you could not install gutters at all and work on the ground
drainage: For example:
http://tinyurl.com/5mvkrv
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Posted by mike on May 18, 2008, 12:44 am
> And how would that help the rain from blowing in his open door?
It doesn't. But every solution is going to be a less-than-perfect
compromise. The OP is going to have to pick out which compromise
suits him best. Some rain is going to blow in no matter what you do.
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Posted by S. Barker on May 16, 2008, 7:38 pm
You could screw the gutter to the roof tin with self drilling sheet metal
screws and little 'L' brackets. THEN to support the outer part of the
gutter, you'd need some straps like they use on conventional roofs without
eaves and facia boards.
Another possible solution would be some rather large "L" brackets fashioned
onto the WALL, and then let the gutter actually SIT on the brackets. I
suppose they could even be 2x4 wood, depending on how you want things to
look. Of course all these options could be painted to match the wall/ roof.
s
> We have a pole barn. It's covered with modern painted ribbed steel.
> The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> under them. This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> would run down the wall.
> I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> sliding door, so there isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? (Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. It can be the modern
> K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> (if they still sell it). I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> want the water from the roof kept away from the door. Besides the mud
> in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> Does anyone know how to deal with this? Do they make a special gutter
> for this sort of application? (I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> in appearance).
> Thanks for all help.
> David
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> The steel on the roof extends approx 6 inches past the wall, thus the
> end of the roof steel sheets are sticking out, with no framing (wood)
> under them. =A0This makes sense because otherwise all the runoff water
> would run down the wall. =A0
> I want to install about 12 feet of rain gutter above the 9 foot long
> sliding door, so there =A0isn't always a mudhole in front of the door
> during rainy seasons. (the rest of the barn does not need gutters).
> The problem is, how do I attach the gutters with this 6 inches of tin
> hanging past the wall? =A0(Cutting off the tin is not an option).
> I dont care what type of rain gutter is used. =A0It can be the modern
> K-style steel, or the plastic, or even the old fashioned round stuff
> (if they still sell it). =A0I don't intend to use a downspout. I just
> want the water from the roof kept away from the door. =A0Besides the mud
> in front of the door, if the wind is blowing a certain way, the roof
> water blows inside the barn when the door is open (which is usually is
> during hot weather, so the animals stay cool).
> Does anyone know how to deal with this? =A0Do they make a special gutter
> for this sort of application? =A0(I did think if stacking several 2x4's
> and attaching them to the wall, but that seems rather clumbsy and ugly
> in appearance). =A0
> Thanks for all help.
> David