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Posted by Jim Elbrecht on November 17, 2009, 9:17 am
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>> Might also be mildew, which Jomax will remove easily.
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>If mildew, bleach would have removed it right away.
Not my mildew. I soak some white outside chairs in a strong
solution of Clorox every couple of years. just wiping it on full
strength does nothing.
Never tried Jomax- but it is now on my shopping list.
Jim
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Posted by willshak on November 17, 2009, 12:36 pm
on 11/17/2009 9:17 AM (ET) Jim Elbrecht wrote the following:
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>>> Might also be mildew, which Jomax will remove easily.
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>> If mildew, bleach would have removed it right away.
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> Not my mildew. I soak some white outside chairs in a strong
> solution of Clorox every couple of years. just wiping it on full
> strength does nothing.
> Never tried Jomax- but it is now on my shopping list.
> Jim
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The stuff I used to use was ZEP Patio Furniture Cleaner ( found at HD).
Unfortunately, ZEP doesn't make it anymore, but I found a another brand,
Spray Nine Patio Furniture Cleaner, which seems to work as well.
http://tinyurl.com/ya4m8q5 --
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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Posted by salty on November 17, 2009, 9:24 am
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:00:07 -0500, "norminn@earthlink.net"
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>salty@dog.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 07:16:31 -0500, "norminn@earthlink.net"
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>>> Ray K wrote:
>>>> They are discolored with vertical gray streaks on the sides, and gray
>>>> spots on the bottom where water flowing down the sides accumulate in
>>>> "puddles" along the bottom outside corner.
>>>> I've tried the following, applied with a saturated paper towel to small
>>>> test areas:
>>>> -- full-strength bleach
>>>> -- full-strength Simple Green
>>>> -- full-strength white vinegar
>>>> -- full-strength TSP substitute
>>>> -- 91% rubbing alcohol. Some improvement, but labor intensive to do all
>>>> 158 feet.
>>>> -- paint thinner
>>>> I've also tried the following:
>>>> -- spray gas log cleaner
>>>> -- spray Fantastic
>>>> -- a mix of bleach with Oxydol laundry detergent, applied with brush.
>>>> Makes some improvement.
>>>> -- a mix of 1 part Simple Green, 1 part bleach, 2 parts water, applied
>>>> with a sponge. Makes some improvement.
>>>> I haven't tried ammonia, since I don't have any in the house.
>>>> I admit that I haven't had the patience to wait 5 to 10 minutes for any
>>>> of the above to work. I was hoping to find something that I could apply
>>>> with a dust-pan brush and have the streaks magically disappear
>>>> immediately. Any suggestions?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ray
>>> It sounds like the stains are oxidized aluminum. Repaint.
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>> Might also be mildew, which Jomax will remove easily.
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>If mildew, bleach would have removed it right away. Bare aluminum,
>either cut edges or where paint has worn away, will oxidize and cause
>the stains as water runs....looking at the location/pattern of stains
>should answer that question.
Well, it could also be contamination from roof runoff. The OP's
description of hasty and shoddy attempts doesn't convince me at all
that he has done anything that would remove mildew. Even straight
bleach needs time to work.
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Posted by Ray K on November 17, 2009, 9:40 am
norminn@earthlink.net wrote:
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> It sounds like the stains are oxidized aluminum. Repaint.
Definitely not oxidation. When I tried rubbing alcohol applied with a
paper towel, it made a noticeable improvement, but took a lot of
pressure. Also, that would be expensive to treat 158 feet.
Overall, the first thing I tried (bleach with laundry detergent) made a
noticeable improvement, but not as much as I'm looking for.
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Posted by norminn@earthlink.net on November 17, 2009, 10:21 am
Ray K wrote:
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> norminn@earthlink.net wrote:
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>> It sounds like the stains are oxidized aluminum. Repaint.
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> Definitely not oxidation. When I tried rubbing alcohol applied with a
> paper towel, it made a noticeable improvement, but took a lot of
> pressure. Also, that would be expensive to treat 158 feet.
Alcohol would probably have softened the paint and might behave as you
describe. There is a difference between dirt and stains...oxidation,
polution, roof runoff, etc., can cause stains that become part of the
paint film.
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> Overall, the first thing I tried (bleach with laundry detergent) made a
> noticeable improvement, but not as much as I'm looking for.
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>If mildew, bleach would have removed it right away.