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How to compare electric vs natural gas heating costs Dan 12-07-2007
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Posted by Dan on December 7, 2007, 8:53 pm
Recently bought a house in the Seattle area, built about 1980. At the time
the house was built, there was no gas in the area. The house has a heat
pump, which is nearing the end of its life. Natural gas is now available in
the area. I'm wondering if I should go with another heat pump, or natural
gas. Since about 80% of the electricity here is hydro, it's relatively
cheap, about $.08/KWH. I don't know what the price of the gas is per cu',
but I could find out. Is there a way I could get a rough estimate of how
much natural gas I would consume to heat the house, based on the electricity
used for this purpose? There are a lot of confounding factors, the relative
efficiency of the 2 units (old heat pump vs new nat'l gas furnace), the fact
that I also use electric to heat water, etc. (can probably find some rough
figure for factoring this out) the relative costs of each type of
replacement (I would add AC to the gas furnace, so I'm guessing the gas/AC
unit would cost more to buy initially than the heat pump, especially if I
have to shell out for the gas line to be run). Coming from the midwest,
electric heat was always seen as significatly more costly than natural gas,
but I don't know if this is still the case just in general, and particularly
if it would be true given this region's relatively low electric rates. Any
helpful comments appreciated.

TIA,

Dan



Posted by Bubba on December 7, 2007, 9:29 pm

>Recently bought a house in the Seattle area, built about 1980. At the time
>the house was built, there was no gas in the area. The house has a heat
>pump, which is nearing the end of its life. Natural gas is now available in
>the area. I'm wondering if I should go with another heat pump, or natural
>gas. Since about 80% of the electricity here is hydro, it's relatively
>cheap, about $.08/KWH. I don't know what the price of the gas is per cu',
>but I could find out. Is there a way I could get a rough estimate of how
>much natural gas I would consume to heat the house, based on the electricity
>used for this purpose? There are a lot of confounding factors, the relative
>efficiency of the 2 units (old heat pump vs new nat'l gas furnace), the fact
>that I also use electric to heat water, etc. (can probably find some rough
>figure for factoring this out) the relative costs of each type of
>replacement (I would add AC to the gas furnace, so I'm guessing the gas/AC
>unit would cost more to buy initially than the heat pump, especially if I
>have to shell out for the gas line to be run). Coming from the midwest,
>electric heat was always seen as significatly more costly than natural gas,
>but I don't know if this is still the case just in general, and particularly
>if it would be true given this region's relatively low electric rates. Any
>helpful comments appreciated.
>
>TIA,
>
>Dan
>

Here. Lets confuse you just a bit more.
Whats wrong with a 95% gas furnace with a heat pump instead of the
usual straight cooling only?
Ive got it and love it. Gives you a bit more ability to play with the
fuel prices. Takes only a Honeywell Vision Pro stat (and outddor temp
sensor) to control it all.
Bubba

Posted by Dan on December 7, 2007, 10:09 pm
>
> Here. Lets confuse you just a bit more.
> Whats wrong with a 95% gas furnace with a heat pump instead of the
> usual straight cooling only?
> Ive got it and love it. Gives you a bit more ability to play with the
> fuel prices. Takes only a Honeywell Vision Pro stat (and outddor temp
> sensor) to control it all.
> Bubba

Sounds interesting, I'll check it out.

Thanks

Dan



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on December 7, 2007, 10:45 pm

> Recently bought a house in the Seattle area, built about 1980. At the
> time the house was built, there was no gas in the area. The house has a
> heat pump, which is nearing the end of its life. Natural gas is now
> available in the area. I'm wondering if I should go with another heat
> pump, or natural gas. Since about 80% of the electricity here is hydro,
> it's relatively cheap, about $.08/KWH. I don't know what the price of the
> gas is per cu', but I could find out. Is there a way I could get a rough
> estimate of how much natural gas I would consume to heat the house, based
> on the electricity used for this purpose?

Your electric is about half what I pay. You can plug in numbers here to get
a pretty good comparison based on using the same Btu for your house. You
need to know the cost of gas, of course.
http://hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/fuel_cost_comparison_calculator/



Posted by Dan on December 8, 2007, 2:28 am

> Your electric is about half what I pay. You can plug in numbers here to
> get a pretty good comparison based on using the same Btu for your house.
> You need to know the cost of gas, of course.
> http://hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/fuel_cost_comparison_calculator/

Thanks Ed, that looks ideal!

Dan



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