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How to frame for smooth ceiling? Brandon 06-28-2007
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Posted by Brandon on June 28, 2007, 4:09 pm
I am finishing a basement and had planned on drop ceiling, but now I
am considering smooth if I can either frame out the ceiling myself or
have someone do it for a reasonable cost.

I have a 9ft ceiling, and need to frame out at around 7.5-8ft to get
below the ductworks/pipes etc. Some of it will be tray in the larger
rooms.

I framed the walls in my basement, so I am assuming doing the ceiling
is similar? But since it is over your head, there are probably
special considerations.

Any guides or photos on how to frame this out? I tried to google but
did not have a lot of luck.

1) general code requirements?
2) size of boards, 2x4?
3) any maximum lengths or spacing between spans (ie can you span a
16ft board across the room or should it be 8ft nailed to support then
run another 8ft)?
4) how to hang/secure to joists?
5) can boards be nailed on ends or should I use hangers?

Framing a wall was not that difficult but a ceiling is pretty
important to get it right. Thanks for any help.

Posted by RicodJour on June 28, 2007, 6:46 pm
> I am finishing a basement and had planned on drop ceiling, but now I
> am considering smooth if I can either frame out the ceiling myself or
> have someone do it for a reasonable cost.
>
> I have a 9ft ceiling, and need to frame out at around 7.5-8ft to get
> below the ductworks/pipes etc. Some of it will be tray in the larger
> rooms.
>
> I framed the walls in my basement, so I am assuming doing the ceiling
> is similar? But since it is over your head, there are probably
> special considerations.
>
> Any guides or photos on how to frame this out? I tried to google but
> did not have a lot of luck.
>
> 1) general code requirements?
> 2) size of boards, 2x4?
> 3) any maximum lengths or spacing between spans (ie can you span a
> 16ft board across the room or should it be 8ft nailed to support then
> run another 8ft)?
> 4) how to hang/secure to joists?
> 5) can boards be nailed on ends or should I use hangers?
>
> Framing a wall was not that difficult but a ceiling is pretty
> important to get it right. Thanks for any help.

The USG web site has information on framing with steel studs and
installing Sheetrock. Their handbook is the bible of the drywall
industry, and it's all available online.

R


Posted by DanG on June 28, 2007, 7:50 pm
USG makes a grid system for hanging drywall. The components are
just like a suspended ceiling grid, but a bit wider and designed
to screw drywall.

Go here and scroll down to USG drywall suspension ceiling system:
http://www.usg.com/resources/handbooks/ViewSection.do?bookId=1&chapterNum=1&sectionNum=7

These materials may not be available at the Borg stores, but any
commercial drywall house will have it. You will need to know how
to install a square grid, but it is more forgiving than a lay-in
ceiling.

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______________________________
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DanG (remove the sevens)
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>I am finishing a basement and had planned on drop ceiling, but
>now I
> am considering smooth if I can either frame out the ceiling
> myself or
> have someone do it for a reasonable cost.
>
> I have a 9ft ceiling, and need to frame out at around 7.5-8ft to
> get
> below the ductworks/pipes etc. Some of it will be tray in the
> larger
> rooms.
>
> I framed the walls in my basement, so I am assuming doing the
> ceiling
> is similar? But since it is over your head, there are probably
> special considerations.
>
> Any guides or photos on how to frame this out? I tried to
> google but
> did not have a lot of luck.
>
> 1) general code requirements?
> 2) size of boards, 2x4?
> 3) any maximum lengths or spacing between spans (ie can you span
> a
> 16ft board across the room or should it be 8ft nailed to support
> then
> run another 8ft)?
> 4) how to hang/secure to joists?
> 5) can boards be nailed on ends or should I use hangers?
>
> Framing a wall was not that difficult but a ceiling is pretty
> important to get it right. Thanks for any help.



Posted by benick on June 28, 2007, 10:45 pm

> USG makes a grid system for hanging drywall. The components are just like
> a suspended ceiling grid, but a bit wider and designed to screw drywall.
>
> Go here and scroll down to USG drywall suspension ceiling system:
>
http://www.usg.com/resources/handbooks/ViewSection.do?bookId=1&chapterNum=1&sectionNum=7
>
> These materials may not be available at the Borg stores, but any
> commercial drywall house will have it. You will need to know how to
> install a square grid, but it is more forgiving than a lay-in ceiling.
>

I agree the USG System is the best way to go but a DIY project for a novice
(no offense to original poster), I think not. Get a pro to install it.
Hanging 5/8 drywall on a ceiling to metal framing is NO FUN either..Believe
me,I know all to well...LOL
> --
> ______________________________
> Keep the whole world singing . . . .
> DanG (remove the sevens)
> dgriff237@7cox.net
>
>
>
>>I am finishing a basement and had planned on drop ceiling, but now I
>> am considering smooth if I can either frame out the ceiling myself or
>> have someone do it for a reasonable cost.
>>
>> I have a 9ft ceiling, and need to frame out at around 7.5-8ft to get
>> below the ductworks/pipes etc. Some of it will be tray in the larger
>> rooms.
>>
>> I framed the walls in my basement, so I am assuming doing the ceiling
>> is similar? But since it is over your head, there are probably
>> special considerations.
>>
>> Any guides or photos on how to frame this out? I tried to google but
>> did not have a lot of luck.
>>
>> 1) general code requirements?
>> 2) size of boards, 2x4?
>> 3) any maximum lengths or spacing between spans (ie can you span a
>> 16ft board across the room or should it be 8ft nailed to support then
>> run another 8ft)?
>> 4) how to hang/secure to joists?
>> 5) can boards be nailed on ends or should I use hangers?
>>
>> Framing a wall was not that difficult but a ceiling is pretty
>> important to get it right. Thanks for any help.
>
>



Posted by Mike Dobony on June 30, 2007, 9:30 pm

>
>> USG makes a grid system for hanging drywall. The components are just
>> like a suspended ceiling grid, but a bit wider and designed to screw
>> drywall.
>>
>> Go here and scroll down to USG drywall suspension ceiling system:
>>
http://www.usg.com/resources/handbooks/ViewSection.do?bookId=1&chapterNum=1&sectionNum=7
>>
>> These materials may not be available at the Borg stores, but any
>> commercial drywall house will have it. You will need to know how to
>> install a square grid, but it is more forgiving than a lay-in ceiling.
>>
>
> I agree the USG System is the best way to go but a DIY project for a
> novice (no offense to original poster), I think not. Get a pro to install
> it. Hanging 5/8 drywall on a ceiling to metal framing is NO FUN
> either..Believe me,I know all to well...LOL

Why does it have to be 5/8? We do 1/2 all the time upstairs in new
construction!



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