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How to install tile over carpet glue? SteveBell 08-23-2008
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Posted by SteveBell on August 23, 2008, 5:50 pm


My client wants ceramic or porcelain tile on her back porch. The
previous owner had glue-down green carpet/fake grass there. My question
is: Can I put thinset down on top of the remaining skim layer of carpet
glue?

An Internet search gives me advice all over the map: remove it with
solvents/don't use solvents because they soak into the concrete and
keep thinset from sticking; remove it with abrasives/don't because it
just melts and wastes time; remove and replace an obscenely thick layer
(1/4 - 1/2 inch) of concrete.

* The surface is smooth and even, and it is sloped properly.
* I power-washed it awhile back, and the glue washed off just slightly.
* I plan on scraping with a 4" razor in any case.

The fact that the glue dissolved slightly makes me hopeful that
water-based bedding material will "bond" with it. On the other hand, it
makes me worry, also, that it won't.

I'll take any advice I can get.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

Posted by Red Green on August 23, 2008, 5:59 pm



> My client wants ceramic or porcelain tile on her back porch. The
> previous owner had glue-down green carpet/fake grass there. My
> question is: Can I put thinset down on top of the remaining skim layer
> of carpet glue?
>
> An Internet search gives me advice all over the map: remove it with
> solvents/don't use solvents because they soak into the concrete and
> keep thinset from sticking; remove it with abrasives/don't because it
> just melts and wastes time; remove and replace an obscenely thick
> layer (1/4 - 1/2 inch) of concrete.
>
> * The surface is smooth and even, and it is sloped properly.
> * I power-washed it awhile back, and the glue washed off just
> slightly. * I plan on scraping with a 4" razor in any case.
>
> The fact that the glue dissolved slightly makes me hopeful that
> water-based bedding material will "bond" with it. On the other hand,
> it makes me worry, also, that it won't.
>
> I'll take any advice I can get.
>

Hey Steve:

Need to get out of the remove it box thinking..

You know well enough that tile needs a good solid base. Maybe it's
already cement with the glue on it?

Sounds like you need to get some cement board of the proper thickness
down in any way you can. Then you know the tile will stick to a brand
new surface designed for tile.

Maybe whatever your situation is cement board is out of the question?

Posted by aemeijers on August 23, 2008, 8:15 pm


SteveBell wrote:
> My client wants ceramic or porcelain tile on her back porch. The
> previous owner had glue-down green carpet/fake grass there. My question
> is: Can I put thinset down on top of the remaining skim layer of carpet
> glue?
>
> An Internet search gives me advice all over the map: remove it with
> solvents/don't use solvents because they soak into the concrete and
> keep thinset from sticking; remove it with abrasives/don't because it
> just melts and wastes time; remove and replace an obscenely thick layer
> (1/4 - 1/2 inch) of concrete.
>
> * The surface is smooth and even, and it is sloped properly.
> * I power-washed it awhile back, and the glue washed off just slightly.
> * I plan on scraping with a 4" razor in any case.
>
> The fact that the glue dissolved slightly makes me hopeful that
> water-based bedding material will "bond" with it. On the other hand, it
> makes me worry, also, that it won't.
>
> I'll take any advice I can get.
>
Rueful Chuckle. Idiot previous owner put that crap down in the furnace
room here, along with cheesy 1960s wood paneling and a drop ceiling
screwed to the ducts. It was apparently his gun room, including the
reloading equipment. (Here's yer sign, etc.)

Anyway, I had to do a lot of demo in there to make a road for the crew
replacing the furnace, and I still haven't got all that black carpet
residue off the the floor. I scrape and sweep and vacum, but there
always seems to be more. A couple hundred bucks of industrial floor
matting (the interlocking squares) is starting to look real tempting.

--
aem sends...

Posted by evodawg on August 23, 2008, 9:29 pm


SteveBell wrote:

> My client wants ceramic or porcelain tile on her back porch. The
> previous owner had glue-down green carpet/fake grass there. My question
> is: Can I put thinset down on top of the remaining skim layer of carpet
> glue?
>
> An Internet search gives me advice all over the map: remove it with
> solvents/don't use solvents because they soak into the concrete and
> keep thinset from sticking; remove it with abrasives/don't because it
> just melts and wastes time; remove and replace an obscenely thick layer
> (1/4 - 1/2 inch) of concrete.
>
> * The surface is smooth and even, and it is sloped properly.
> * I power-washed it awhile back, and the glue washed off just slightly.
> * I plan on scraping with a 4" razor in any case.
>
> The fact that the glue dissolved slightly makes me hopeful that
> water-based bedding material will "bond" with it. On the other hand, it
> makes me worry, also, that it won't.
>
> I'll take any advice I can get.
>
Customer had that on an outside patio that he decided he wanted tiled. Get
as much up as possible and scrap with a heavy duty scraper. I got most of
it up I also used some solvent made for that purpose. Just use a good thin
set for concrete and it should be fine. I did this job 4 years ago and it
seems to be holding up fine.
--
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but you can't make them THINK"
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Posted by dadiOH on August 24, 2008, 8:06 am


SteveBell wrote:
> My client wants ceramic or porcelain tile on her back porch. The
> previous owner had glue-down green carpet/fake grass there. My
> question is: Can I put thinset down on top of the remaining skim
> layer of carpet glue?
>
> An Internet search gives me advice all over the map: remove it with
> solvents/don't use solvents because they soak into the concrete and
> keep thinset from sticking; remove it with abrasives/don't because it
> just melts and wastes time; remove and replace an obscenely thick
> layer (1/4 - 1/2 inch) of concrete.
>
> * The surface is smooth and even, and it is sloped properly.
> * I power-washed it awhile back, and the glue washed off just
> slightly.
> * I plan on scraping with a 4" razor in any case.
>
> The fact that the glue dissolved slightly makes me hopeful that
> water-based bedding material will "bond" with it. On the other hand,
> it makes me worry, also, that it won't.
>
> I'll take any advice I can get.

Try a propane torch to burn it off then power wash.

--

dadiOH
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