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How to remove metal door frames Magenta 06-27-2007
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Posted by Magenta on June 27, 2007, 6:36 pm

The interior doors have a metal door frame, molded to look like it has
the trim pieces. Its appears to cover the wallboard on both sides. It
seems pretty firmy attached, though the fasterners are not apparent,
The carpet wraps around the bottom and extends to the middle.

That's not really much of a description, but it's just a molded metal
door frame; the house is from the 60's

Has anyone any experience in taking these out and installing a
pre-hung door?

Without screwing up the carpet?

Posted by DerbyDad03 on June 27, 2007, 7:00 pm
> The interior doors have a metal door frame, molded to look like it has
> the trim pieces. Its appears to cover the wallboard on both sides. It
> seems pretty firmy attached, though the fasterners are not apparent,
> The carpet wraps around the bottom and extends to the middle.
>
> That's not really much of a description, but it's just a molded metal
> door frame; the house is from the 60's
>
> Has anyone any experience in taking these out and installing a
> pre-hung door?
>
> Without screwing up the carpet?

It's possible that this jamb was installed prior to the drywall/
plaster being applied to the wall.

There may be flanges that extend under the drywall/plaster which are
attached to the framing members with screws/nails into the narrow side
of the studs used to frame the rough opening. You may have to cut back
the drywall/plaster to expose the fasteners.

God luck!


Posted by Dean on June 27, 2007, 8:56 pm
>
> > The interior doors have a metal door frame, molded to look like it has
> > the trim pieces. Its appears to cover the wallboard on both sides. It
> > seems pretty firmy attached, though the fasterners are not apparent,
> > The carpet wraps around the bottom and extends to the middle.
>
> > That's not really much of a description, but it's just a molded metal
> > door frame; the house is from the 60's
>
> > Has anyone any experience in taking these out and installing a
> > pre-hung door?
>
> > Without screwing up the carpet?
>
> It's possible that this jamb was installed prior to the drywall/
> plaster being applied to the wall.
>
> There may be flanges that extend under the drywall/plaster which are
> attached to the framing members with screws/nails into the narrow side
> of the studs used to frame the rough opening. You may have to cut back
> the drywall/plaster to expose the fasteners.
>
> God luck!

Right on the money derbydad,,We used 3 clips(flanges)on each
side,,rarely used them on top of a buck less than 4' wide,,if it is a
fire rated metal doorbuck it could be filled with cement or basecoat
plaster too..The clips should have short self-tapping panhead screws
on both sides of the stud,,after they are removed and the flooring
dealt with the buck can be tapped over at the bottom and it should
pull off the drywall and down,,sometimes the buck has to be bent
around alot and Ya might be lucky to get it out without extra damage
to the wall..If it is fire rated it wo'nt sound hollow when rapped on
with knuckles so check that before anything else is done..
Sometimes there are metal studs to go along with a metal
buck,,,I've seen 2x4s married with the metal,,,or,,,the metal studs
removed and replaced with wood...Firecode may have been an issue when
built and may still be one..I just do'nt know from the info provided.
When it's removed the new install should be standard process if
it's wood frame..
Dean


Posted by Magenta on June 29, 2007, 8:44 am

There's four of them and they're in a hallway I'm going to gut, but I
was hoping not to damage the walls or floors in the four rooms.
Doesn't look like that's going to be the case.

Posted by RicodJour on June 29, 2007, 9:03 am
> There's four of them and they're in a hallway I'm going to gut, but I
> was hoping not to damage the walls or floors in the four rooms.
> Doesn't look like that's going to be the case.

Check out how the frame is built - specifically the head/jamb
connection. If there are welded seams then the door buck probably
went in before the drywall and you'll have to do some excavation. If
the seams aren't welded, and there are visible screw heads through the
sides of the jamb (there might be covers on the access holes - depends
on the manufacturer) you probably have a knock down buck. These are
assembled in place after the drywall goes on. The visible (or not)
screws are to brace the jamb against the framing at the intermediate
points. There are metal tabs on the bottom of the frame, on top of
the drywall, that are screwed into the framing to secure it. You may
have to remove the baseboard next to the door to find the tabs.

R


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