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How to replace aluminum windows with "fin" ?? Keith 08-02-2005
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Posted by Keith on August 2, 2005, 5:12 pm


Hello,

I want to replace my 30+ year old aluminum widows. I pulled the inside
molding off, and then pryed the inside stops off, thus revealing the
rough frame opening (37x60).

But I notice that the aluminum window has a "fin" that almost looks
like it slides between the wood frame and the outside sheathing.

Do I cut the fin, or do I have to take the siding off? Please don't
tell me I have to take the siding off, there has got to me a way of
doing this without a bunch of siding working!

Thanks for any and all help!
Keith



Posted by tom on August 2, 2005, 5:28 pm


Keith wrote: I want to replace my 30+ year old aluminum widows. I
pulled the inside
molding off, and then pryed the inside stops off, thus revealing the
rough frame opening (37x60).
But I notice that the aluminum window has a "fin" that almost looks
like it slides between the wood frame and the outside sheathing.
Do I cut the fin, or do I have to take the siding off? Please don't
tell me I have to take the siding off, there has got to me a way of
doing this without a bunch of siding working!


Won't your new windows need to go behind the siding, also? Tom



Posted by John‰]                         on August 3, 2005, 1:10 am



> Hello,
>
> I want to replace my 30+ year old aluminum widows. I pulled the inside
> molding off, and then pryed the inside stops off, thus revealing the
> rough frame opening (37x60).
>
> But I notice that the aluminum window has a "fin" that almost looks
> like it slides between the wood frame and the outside sheathing.
>
> Do I cut the fin, or do I have to take the siding off? Please don't
> tell me I have to take the siding off, there has got to me a way of
> doing this without a bunch of siding working!
>
> Thanks for any and all help!
> Keith

It depends...

If you want to leave the siding strictly alone you can remove the
sashes or the glass or both and then collapse the window frame with a
big pry bar tearing the nails out of the fin. The fin will come out
with the window and the nails will remain in place. You can use a wood
block as a fulcrum to protect the siding. It might be helpful to
hacksaw the frame at the top or bottom to help it collapse. You then
replace it with a "box window" that screws into the framing from the
sides. Many replacement windows use a frangible fin so that you can
use it or snap it off.

The alternative is to locate the edge of the fin and then zip an inch
or so of siding off with a circular saw set to cut shallow. You can
then remove the old window by pulling the nails, nail the new window in
with the fin and add wood trim to make up the difference.

I just did a house with aluminum siding and 1X4 trim around the windows
and the alternative system worked great. A lot depends on the design
of your house. Don't forget to plan for insulation and a watertight
seal around your new windows. It ain't rocket science but it requires
a little thought to do it right.

Good luck.

John


Posted by Keith on August 2, 2005, 6:37 pm


Thank YOU very much,

That helps alot..... just one more question.... Do replacement windows
come with the outside "trim kits", or do you have to make the trim
yourself?

Keith



Posted by John‰]                         on August 3, 2005, 3:06 am



> Thank YOU very much,
>
> That helps alot..... just one more question.... Do replacement windows
> come with the outside "trim kits", or do you have to make the trim
> yourself?
>
> Keith

Since there are 327,000 trim options, no; there is no such thing as a
"trim kit". I had to rip some trim for the windows I just installed but
once again, it ain't rocket science. With a straightedge and some
clamps you can rip any kind to trim with just a circular saw; no table
saw or special tools required.

Pick the smallest window and use it as a trial run. Make sure you have
a piece of plywood handy to cover it overnight if things get
complicated. What's the worst that could happen? I don't care what
your wife says, you can do it. <g> If it goes sour, hire the rest of
them out and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

John


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