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How to stop spam from google accounts? Walter R. 03-05-2008
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Posted by Chris Lewis on March 7, 2008, 12:02 pm
> On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:23:32 -0000, clewis@nortelnetworks.com (Chris Lewis)
> wrote:


> >> Now why in the world would you want to do that?

> >> I live in a very small rural town. My ISP, for one reason or the other,
has
> >> now hooked up with gmail. For me, it's gmail or two tin cans with strings.
> >
> >You do realize that you're not posting with a gmail address, don't
> >you? A filter on @gmail.com wouldn't affect you.

> You do realize that you are wrong, don't you?

Er, what?

The person I'm replying to is using a from line of meagain@rockvilleUSA

What part of a "filter on @gmail.com won't affect you" don't you understand?

I do know rather more than a little about Usenet. For example, RFC2980 ;-)

> I use a fairly old version of
> Agent for a newsreader, and one of the default choices for filtering is the
> email address. It doesn't even have to be a real email address.

Which is true. Case in point:

> Here is the top of your header:

> Path:
>
<news4.newsguy.com!extra.newsguy.com!postnews.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-05!sn-xt-sjc-10!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail>
> From: clewis@nortelnetworks.com (Chris Lewis)
> Newsgroups: alt.home.repair
> Subject: Re: How to stop spam from google accounts?

> If I want to filter just you, I right click on your post and select "filter"

Right.

> The DEFAULT choice is to filter by your email address. It fills that in to the
> filter for me. If I want to filter out everyone at Nortelnetworks.com, I simply
> highlight and delete "clewis" from in front of the @ sign.

Right, but, if you filtered on "nortel.com", you wouldn't filter out
my messages would you? Or if you had a hate on and wanted to block
people posting via Supernews, "nortelnetworks.com" would hardly be
sufficient would it?

Hint: nortel.com is actually where I'm posting from ;-)

Hint: if you filtered on @gmail.com, you won't filter out
@rockvilleUSA

Which is SteveB's situation. He may well be posting
from google/gmail, but he's _not_ indicating that in the From:
line. Hence, a dumb "From:" filter for @gmail.com or @google.com
will NOT affect him.

More properly, if you want to block postings _from_ google (and
not just the ones who don't know how to set their From lines), it's
better to block on "Path:". And distinguish between those postings
that _originate_ on Google, and those that are just passing through.

Your copy of my path above shows my posting transiting through
google. But that's not where it came from.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by on March 7, 2008, 12:29 pm

> This is the real world. =A0Unless you live in Singapore, your daily walk t=
akes
> you past a lot of trash on the street and on the side of the road. =A0Tune=
it
> out. =A0It's a fact of life. =A0It's going to be there no matter what you =
do.

SB:
At this point, though, the situation is more like "mountains of trash
blocking
the door when you try to leave the house".

A P

Posted by Kyle on March 6, 2008, 3:35 pm
> Most of the spam in this NG seems to originate in @gmail accounts.
[snip]
> Can someone tell me how to block newsgroup messages from all
> gmail accounts?

Two problems with your idea:
(1) you may very well block any valid message where the poster uses a
Gmail account for the 'bots to harvest off the Newsgroups.
(2) Gmail isn't the only problem. Remember the past couple weeks with
that mentally unbalanced person who posted under seven or eight
different Hotmail addresses?

Anyone know if Popfile works with newsreaders, or if there's something
similar (something with Bayesian filtering that learns as it goes) we
could use?

(Yes, yes, I know; I'm posting from Google groups. Shoot me. I'm at
the office.)

Posted by Chris Lewis on March 6, 2008, 4:31 pm

> Anyone know if Popfile works with newsreaders, or if there's something
> similar (something with Bayesian filtering that learns as it goes) we
> could use?

Much to my surprise, popfile apparently _does_ work with NNTP/Usenet
(in addition to POP for email), but you can't tell from popfile's
web page.

Or at least one of the google-findable reviews says so.

I have my doubts as to how useable Bayesian will be on Usenet, short
of having to actually view all of the postings in the group to train it.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by Doug Miller on March 8, 2008, 9:02 am
wrote:

>Seriously, the question that keeps coming up, is WHY IS GOOGLE NOT
>FILTERING THE OUTGOING MESSAGES?

Because Google doesn't care.

That's why I use Nfilter to drop *all* posts that came through Google Groups.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

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