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How to terminate circuit inside already finished wall ? blah@blah.com 05-24-2006
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Posted by blah@blah.com on May 24, 2006, 12:00 am
There's an outlet above my stove inside a cabinet that provides
electricity for my microwave. Unfortunately, the circuit it is on is
overloaded with other items at times so I am in the process of running
a dedicated line from my circuit breaker box to the microwave outlet.

Ideally, I could just remove the overloaded circuit wires from outlet
and connect the wires from the new dedicated circuit to the outlet.
However, what do I do with the leftover hot wires from the old
overloaded circuit? I can get to the ends of the wire (obviously
because they were attached to the outlet) but I can't get to the rest
of the wire because it's inside the wall...

Note: the wires from the overloaded circuit outlet are at the end of
the run (no outlets after it so just terminating it is OK).

Thanks for any feedback...
Kevin


Posted by Bob on May 24, 2006, 12:34 am
> There's an outlet above my stove inside a cabinet that provides
> electricity for my microwave. Unfortunately, the circuit it is on is
> overloaded with other items at times so I am in the process of running
> a dedicated line from my circuit breaker box to the microwave outlet.
>
> Ideally, I could just remove the overloaded circuit wires from outlet
> and connect the wires from the new dedicated circuit to the outlet.
> However, what do I do with the leftover hot wires from the old
> overloaded circuit? I can get to the ends of the wire (obviously
> because they were attached to the outlet) but I can't get to the rest
> of the wire because it's inside the wall...
>
> Note: the wires from the overloaded circuit outlet are at the end of
> the run (no outlets after it so just terminating it is OK).

Disconnect the circuit at the next-to-last box in the run.

Bob


Posted by ameijers on May 24, 2006, 12:37 am

> There's an outlet above my stove inside a cabinet that provides
> electricity for my microwave. Unfortunately, the circuit it is on is
> overloaded with other items at times so I am in the process of running
> a dedicated line from my circuit breaker box to the microwave outlet.
>
> Ideally, I could just remove the overloaded circuit wires from outlet
> and connect the wires from the new dedicated circuit to the outlet.
> However, what do I do with the leftover hot wires from the old
> overloaded circuit? I can get to the ends of the wire (obviously
> because they were attached to the outlet) but I can't get to the rest
> of the wire because it's inside the wall...
>
> Note: the wires from the overloaded circuit outlet are at the end of
> the run (no outlets after it so just terminating it is OK).
>
1. If you can find the next outlet, light fixture, or junction box upstream,
disconnect it there, loosen the clamps, and push the abandoned run back into
the wall. As long as the wire is disconnected on both ends, abandoning it in
place is perfectly legal. Clipping off the stripped ends will be a good clue
to the guy finding it 20 years from now. Do the same thing in the outlet
above the stove. Fish the 12-3 for the dedicated run, and you are good to
go.

2. (probably easier) just cap the end of the wires, and put a blank cover on
the outlet, and use an old-work box for the new outlet. Or just leave
existing outlet as is, add the dedicated outlet, and label both with a
Sharpie so the next owner knows not to use the overloaded outlet for the
micro. Overloaded outlet would probably still be okay for powering a
transformer to run low-voltage puck lights for under-cabinet accent lights
or something.

aem sends...


Posted by blah@blah.com on May 24, 2006, 8:11 am
Thanks for your feedback guys. My plan was/is to terminate the circuit
inside an upstream outlet box just before the outlet in question if at
all possible. That seems like the cleanest solution. However, I have
a sinking feeling that the outlet in question may be branched off from
a breakout box I can't access.

I guess option two is to install ANOTHER outlet next to the existing
one and label accordingly but I kind of didn't want to do that.

What if I cap the wires off inside the outlet box with wirenuts &
electrical tape, put a cover on the box, and just push it back inside
the wall. Is that a big no-no? I guess if I have to ask it probably
is, but any additional feedback would be appreciated. :-)

Thanks,
Kevin


Posted by Sev on May 24, 2006, 10:01 am
No, don't push into wall. I understand you don't like the appearance of
this unused thing, but it is, as you say, a big no -no. Are you sure
you can't access upstream box?


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