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I have a problem Walter R. 08-17-2006
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Posted by Walter R. on August 17, 2006, 2:17 pm
My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio is
supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite heavy.

The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
saddle brackets, set in the concrete.

The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
about 1" too low.
When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
sticking up through the patio floor.

Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop dry
rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.

What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a tough
one! Any ideas?
--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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Posted by wpattison on August 17, 2006, 2:36 pm
Maybe correctly install new posts in between the current ones, then
remove the old posts?

Walter R. wrote:
> My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
> into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio is
> supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
> overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite heavy.
>
> The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
> saddle brackets, set in the concrete.
>
> The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
> about 1" too low.
> When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
> posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
> sticking up through the patio floor.
>
> Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
> concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop dry
> rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.
>
> What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a tough
> one! Any ideas?
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
> -


Posted by Walter R. on August 17, 2006, 5:13 pm
Thanks, but I can't do that. The heavy weight of the roof requires piers
under the slab where the posts would be.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
-
> Maybe correctly install new posts in between the current ones, then
> remove the old posts?
>
> Walter R. wrote:
>> My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
>> into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio
>> is
>> supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
>> overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite
>> heavy.
>>
>> The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
>> saddle brackets, set in the concrete.
>>
>> The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
>> about 1" too low.
>> When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
>> posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
>> sticking up through the patio floor.
>>
>> Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
>> concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop
>> dry
>> rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.
>>
>> What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a
>> tough
>> one! Any ideas?
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>



Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on August 18, 2006, 7:42 am

> Thanks, but I can't do that. The heavy weight of the roof requires piers
> under the slab where the posts would be.
>

Actually, you can do that. It just takes more work, but it can be done.
There are other solutions though. Use temporary supports while replacing
the present supports and get them above grade. Pour an additional couple of
inches of concrete or use blocks.



Posted by Art on August 17, 2006, 2:38 pm
Are they treated lumber? They will probably last another 20 years even if
they show a little rot now.


> My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
> into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio is
> supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
> overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite
> heavy.
>
> The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
> saddle brackets, set in the concrete.
>
> The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
> about 1" too low.
> When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
> posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
> sticking up through the patio floor.
>
> Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
> concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop
> dry rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.
>
> What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a
> tough one! Any ideas?
> --
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
> -
>



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