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I have a problem Walter R. 08-17-2006
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Posted by Walter R. on August 17, 2006, 5:14 pm
Thanks. I would be sleeping much mores soundly if the posts were treated.
Unfortunately, they were just plain douglas fir.

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Walter
www.rationality.net
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> Are they treated lumber? They will probably last another 20 years even if
> they show a little rot now.
>
>
>> My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
>> into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio
>> is supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
>> overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite
>> heavy.
>>
>> The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
>> saddle brackets, set in the concrete.
>>
>> The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
>> about 1" too low.
>> When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
>> posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
>> sticking up through the patio floor.
>>
>> Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
>> concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop
>> dry rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.
>>
>> What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a
>> tough one! Any ideas?
>> --
>> Walter
>> www.rationality.net
>> -
>>
>
>



Posted by m Ransley on August 17, 2006, 2:42 pm
Put temporary support screw jacks on each side,and raise apx 1/2 higher,
cut off 6-12" at the bottom, remove wood and fill level with concrete
and new metal bracket, cut a new 8x8 piece to fit, from the added on
piece screw up into the old beam to get a few countersunk screws in
place. Or a cosmetic-joining, collar on the bottom made out of 1x 12


Posted by Walter R. on August 17, 2006, 10:37 pm
Good input. Thank you.

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Walter
www.rationality.net
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> Put temporary support screw jacks on each side,and raise apx 1/2 higher,
> cut off 6-12" at the bottom, remove wood and fill level with concrete
> and new metal bracket, cut a new 8x8 piece to fit, from the added on
> piece screw up into the old beam to get a few countersunk screws in
> place. Or a cosmetic-joining, collar on the bottom made out of 1x 12
>



Posted by Robert Allison on August 17, 2006, 6:36 pm
Walter R. wrote:
> My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
> into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio is
> supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
> overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite heavy.
>
> The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
> saddle brackets, set in the concrete.
>
> The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
> about 1" too low.
> When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
> posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
> sticking up through the patio floor.
>
> Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
> concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop dry
> rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.
>
> What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a tough
> one! Any ideas?

Support the roof with jacks or timbers, sawzall the bottom of
the posts 1" or more (whatever you use under the posts will
determine this distance, but stay at least one inch above top
of patio), then slip a standoff base under the post. The
standoff base can be a standard galvanized base, or you could
use an 8"x8"x2" concrete pad.

If you don't have enough of the saddle above the finished
floor to do this, you may have to weld extensions onto them.
You could bolt extensions on if you have the room to do it.
The other option would be to cut off the saddle brackets and
drill at a forty five degree angle into the bottom of the
post, through the post base and into the concrete from
opposite sides. Then epoxy a piece of rebar into the concrete
and post.

--
Robert Allison        
Rimshot, Inc.
Georgetown, TX

Posted by Walter R. on August 17, 2006, 10:45 pm
Thank you, Robert. Your suggestions make good sense. I can probably do this
myself for about $50.

I am having a contractor look at the situation. Will be interesting to see
what he suggests doing and how much it would cost.

--
Walter
www.rationality.net
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> Walter R. wrote:
>> My house was built 26 years ago. It has an 11x50 concrete patio, set back
>> into the house, with an 11 foot roof overhang. The roof above the patio
>> is supported by three 8x8 (load bearing) wooden posts. The roof above the
>> overhang is concrete tile (like the rest of the house) and thus quite
>> heavy.
>>
>> The 3 wooden posts rest on 18x18 poured concrete piers and are secured by
>> saddle brackets, set in the concrete.
>>
>> The problem: They built the piers/brackets that support the wooden posts
>> about 1" too low.
>> When they poured the pad for the concrete patio, they embedded the wooden
>> posts 1" into the patio concrete slab, with the posts and the brackets
>> sticking up through the patio floor.
>>
>> Therefore, the wooden posts, which are set in the bracket on top of the
>> concrete pier but below the surface of the slab, are starting to develop
>> dry rot because their bottom 1" is embedded in the concrete pad.
>>
>> What can I do to raise the wooden posts out of the concrete? That's a
>> tough one! Any ideas?
>
> Support the roof with jacks or timbers, sawzall the bottom of the posts 1"
> or more (whatever you use under the posts will determine this distance,
> but stay at least one inch above top of patio), then slip a standoff base
> under the post. The standoff base can be a standard galvanized base, or
> you could use an 8"x8"x2" concrete pad.
>
> If you don't have enough of the saddle above the finished floor to do
> this, you may have to weld extensions onto them. You could bolt extensions
> on if you have the room to do it. The other option would be to cut off the
> saddle brackets and drill at a forty five degree angle into the bottom of
> the post, through the post base and into the concrete from opposite sides.
> Then epoxy a piece of rebar into the concrete and post.
>
> --
> Robert Allison Rimshot, Inc.
> Georgetown, TX



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