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I need 50 mouse traps Ken 12-31-2006
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Posted by z on January 2, 2007, 11:15 am



clannorm@yahoo.com wrote:
> Steve B wrote:
> >
> > > Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of
> > > actual practical value i learned in school.
> >
> > I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than
> > one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in
> > college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and how
> > to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and places and
> > facts. Then it made sense.
> >
> > I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with
> > something for a good while, and not move on or quit.
> >
> >
> Considering the grade inflation today and how little people have to
> actually do to complete their degree to me it means less and less every
> year. I see what is coming out of college and i am not impressed. By
> the way I have 200 hours of college(no degree) and also 15 years of
> practical experience in machining, manufacturing and now industrial
> maintenance. College is just a club and a degree gets you into a club
> of other club members.
> My experience is that the best machinists would make much better
> engineers than your average graduate with a degree.
> Ken

Well, to some degree theoretical education has gone off and separated
itself from actual practice. When I went to college (paralyzed around
technology), way back before the dinosaurs, everybody had built
something. A hovercraft, a geiger counter, a car, a telescope,
something; usually, a bunch of things. Not true no more; I think it's
because they all spent their time on computers instead. Often they
graduate still never having built anything outside the virtual world.


Posted by EXT on January 1, 2007, 7:54 pm



>
>
>> Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of
>> actual practical value i learned in school.
>
> I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than
> one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in
> college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and
> how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and
> places and facts. Then it made sense.
>
> I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with
> something for a good while, and not move on or quit.

Sounds good in theory and sometimes college grads. only know about theory. I
only had high school education with a couple of courses at a college, but I
hired and had a number of college grads who worked for me. Some were good,
others knew so little about the business they were trained in that it was
like I had hired a total amateur. I placed little importance on college
degrees and more importance on knowledge and the ability to learn quickly.



Posted by z on January 2, 2007, 11:20 am



EXT wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Use tools (maybe a lawsuit possible here). It amazes me how little of
> >> actual practical value i learned in school.
> >
> > I was confused about why a college educated person was more valuable than
> > one with HKU learning. (Hard Knocks University) A man once said that in
> > college, they teach you how to learn. How to identify the problem, and
> > how to find the solutions. Not so much on teaching you the dates and
> > places and facts. Then it made sense.
> >
> > I think that school also is an indicator that a person can stay with
> > something for a good while, and not move on or quit.
>
> Sounds good in theory and sometimes college grads. only know about theory. I
> only had high school education with a couple of courses at a college, but I
> hired and had a number of college grads who worked for me. Some were good,
> others knew so little about the business they were trained in that it was
> like I had hired a total amateur. I placed little importance on college
> degrees and more importance on knowledge and the ability to learn quickly.

A lot of grief has come from the belief that if you go to business
school and get a business degree, then you can run a business, any
business, without having to know anything about it.


Posted by mm on December 31, 2006, 11:56 am



>I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with
>a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size.
>
>No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and
>my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source
>of traps has been put out of business.
>
>Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a
>company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from
>the factory?

There was a time when one could just go to a store and say he wanted
to buy a lot of something, and make a deal on the price. In theory
some managers even of big box stores have the power to do this now,
but I think they would find the paperwork daunting. But small stores
where the owner or a real manager is on the premises can do it.

I wanted to buy a life-time supply of double edged razor blades (not
the silly twin blades but the double-edged.) and thought I should make
a deal with a store, but I never got around to it, and then I panicked
when Walgreens and Giant were only selling one item each (and
Walgreens wanted 10 dollars for 10 blades, although Giant only wanted
3 dollars for 10 blades. So I went to ebaay and bought 200 for about
18 dollars including postage. They're made in Turkey but seem sharp
enough. Much of the rest of the world still uses standard double
edged blades instead of the Trac-9 and other strange things in the US.
Because I have a beard and don't shave at all most days, it's hard to
tell how many I will need in the next, 35 years, God willing, but I
think 200 will handle it. If not I will have to go abroad to buy
more. Add 1 or 2000 dollars to the price.


>
>Ken


Posted by Jeff Wisnia on January 1, 2007, 5:17 pm


mm wrote:

>
>
>>I need 50 mouse traps. These are the small 8.5 cm x 4.5 cm traps with
>>a wood base (about playing card size), not the big rat trap size.
>>
>>No, I don't have a monster infestation of rodents. I teach physics and
>>my students have to make mouse trap powered cars. My only known source
>>of traps has been put out of business.
>>
>>Does anyone know of a source of 50 traps? Better yet, is there a
>>company that makes mouse traps in Manila so I could get them right from
>>the factory?
>
>
> There was a time when one could just go to a store and say he wanted
> to buy a lot of something, and make a deal on the price. In theory
> some managers even of big box stores have the power to do this now,
> but I think they would find the paperwork daunting. But small stores
> where the owner or a real manager is on the premises can do it.
>
> I wanted to buy a life-time supply of double edged razor blades (not
> the silly twin blades but the double-edged.) and thought I should make
> a deal with a store, but I never got around to it, and then I panicked
> when Walgreens and Giant were only selling one item each (and
> Walgreens wanted 10 dollars for 10 blades, although Giant only wanted
> 3 dollars for 10 blades. So I went to ebaay and bought 200 for about
> 18 dollars including postage. They're made in Turkey but seem sharp
> enough. Much of the rest of the world still uses standard double
> edged blades instead of the Trac-9 and other strange things in the US.
> Because I have a beard and don't shave at all most days, it's hard to
> tell how many I will need in the next, 35 years, God willing, but I
> think 200 will handle it. If not I will have to go abroad to buy
> more. Add 1 or 2000 dollars to the price.
>
>
>
>>Ken
>
>

Didja ever learn how to "resharpen" or "hone" those double edge blades
by rubbing them around the inside of a drinking glass?

How about those Wilkenson Sword" blades imported from England, which
IIRC the first stainless steel blades available in the USA? They had
office mates bragging about how mant shaves they could get from one blade.

I fondly remember King Gillette's "Blue Blades", and even the "foxhole
radios" made from them during WWII.

http://members.aol.com/djadamson7/articles/foxhole.html

I believe it was King Gillette who first came up with the concept of
"giving away" the razors so he could then sell you the blades forever.

Thanks for the mammaries,

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight.

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