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Posted by Luke on June 24, 2005, 5:55 pm
On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 19:11:05 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
wrote:
>>On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 12:49:28 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>>wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>>>On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 12:34:33 GMT, spambait@milmac.com (Doug Miller)
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But in any case, I think that congress is acting a bit foolishly
>>>>>
>>>>>That's why the Founding Fathers wisely required the consent of three-fourths
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>>>>>of the states, too, before amending the Constitution. There's much more
>> common
>>>>>sense, and a lot less political posturing, in the state legislatures than in
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>>>>>Congress.
>>>>
>>>>You're joking, aren't you?!?
>>>>
>>>What makes you think that?
>>
>>Many years working with several state legislatures, for one. Reading
>>newspapers, for another.
>>
>Apparently you don't pay much attention to what goes on in DC, then. :-)
Okay, you win this minor diversion in an off topic discussion of an
off topic discussion ;-).
>And I'm sure that some state legislatures are much better (or worse) than
>others.
Well, like, uh, ya know, like ... DUH!
--
Luke
___________________________________________________________________
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest
exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior
moral justification for selfishness."
-- John Kenneth Galbraith
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Posted by Doug Miller on June 23, 2005, 8:39 am
>Gene wrote:
>> Well, burning the flag IS considered the proper way of disposing it.
>>
>> But in any case, I think that congress is acting a bit foolishly
>
>Absolutely. This ought to be addressed by statute, not a constitutional
>amendment.
This *has* been addressed by statute. And the Supreme Court declared that
statute to be unConstitutional. Hence the proposed amendment.
>You save that for basic concepts. The Constitution is the
> framework for all our laws.... it should not be a law itself.
No, it *is* the law:
"This Constitution ... shall be the supreme Law of the Land, and the Judges in
every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of
any State to the Contrary notwithstanding." [Article VI, clause 2]
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
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Posted by Duane Bozarth on June 23, 2005, 7:53 pm
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote:
>
...
> One needs to be very circumspect about changing the Constitution. It needs to
> remain damned near sacred.
Well, there were at least a few of the Founding Fathers that probably
wouldn't be so sure about that--although I think the issues would be
more significant.
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Posted by Doug Miller on June 24, 2005, 8:50 am
>And now that it's legal for my city to tear my house down whenever they
>feel like it....
>
>I just don't like the direction things are going.
>
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
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Posted by on June 24, 2005, 9:45 am
>
>I spent 20 years in the Marines.
>
>I like Clinton, I consider George Bush to be a traitor and an evildoer, and
>if asked should
>we have invaded Iraq, I'll be the first to say NO, just as I said at the
>time.
>
>No president in my lifetime has squandered as much money, ruined our
>enviromental laws, screwed over the poor, and killed as many innocent people
>as the Bush administration.
>
>The people of Nazi Germany were fooled in 1936, just as the Bush
>administration is fooling half of America today.
>
>God bless our country, I hope we survive this bunch of criminals currently
>in office.
>
>
You took the words right out of my mouth. I totally agree with you,
except I was not in the marines. Clinton had a sexual affair and lied
about it. Bush has killed 1700 Americans and something like 100,000
Iraq people, not to mention all the other evils he has done. There
isn't even a comparison. I'd much rather hear about the Clinton soap
opera than hearing daily about more deaths.
What really gets me, is that while the country is in this senseless
war, and gas prices are getting higher and higher and jobs are in
short supply and the economy is poor (despite what Bush says), and
something like half the country has no health coverage, and the list
goes on........ Bush and congress are worrying about a few flag fires.
It's not like it happens daily, and although the flag is a symbol of
the country I love, it's still nothing more than a piece of cloth,
since the REAL flag is what it symbolizes. This is even more
worthless of their time than the gay marriage issue, which once again
is taking away our freedoms, and only affects a small minority of the
population. No, I am not gay, nor do I really endorse gays, but when
is the Bush administration going to take care of the REAL problems in
this country. Even if just one of them.
Another person posted
Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., said, "If the flag needs protection at
all, it needs protection from members of Congress who value the symbol
more than the freedoms that the flag represents."
I think this says it all.......
Sorry for adding to this off topic thread, but this one seemed to
deserve some comments. This is no longer a particism issue, it's the
true facts, and I for one am really worried about what else Bush is
going to do to destroy this country.
Mark
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