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Posted by jJim McLaughlin on January 18, 2008, 6:24 pm
terry wrote:
> On Jan 19, 12:24 am, t...@mucks.net wrote:
>
>>>1. Outdoor Motion Detector Fixtures.
>>
>>> A. I have six (6) of these in various locations around my house. Five
>>>are for
>>> pairs of the standard "flood light" type incandescent bulbs. They all
>>>work fine with incandescent
>>> bulbs. Not a single one will work at all when I replace the
>>>incandescent bulbs with
>>> outdoor fluorescent bulbs.
>>
>>I don't understand why they wouldn't work unless it's just too cold for
>>the fluorescents to start up.
>
>
> Question: Is it because the sensor that detects, motion and/or whether
> it is daytime or night requires a certain (although small) amount of
> current flow through the lamps to operate correctly while waiting to
> turn on the lamps?
> Not seeing the resistance of the bulb which when the regular
> incandescents are cold and not lit, is probably less than 100 ohms
> each (two 100 watt bulbs in paralell = 50 ohms!) maybe the unit will
> not work correctly.
>
> In other words CFLs may be different and are incomptible?
>
> I have to agree with the OP, regulations should not be made that will
> cause problesm with existing hardware.
>
> Personally we find that in our cool climate, where every month of the
> year requires some home heating (ours is electric) especially in the
> evenings when the lights are most likely to be on, that regualr
> incandescents provide a small portion of the home heat required!
>
> For example; much of the year our bathroom is heated mainly by the six
> 40 watt bulbs above the vanity mirror; each bulb costing about 25
> cents. So that the 500 watt electric heater in that room rarely comes
> on! Another advantage is that the lights tend to be turned off when
> bathroom unoccupied, automatically saving electricity.
>
> Since incandescents are so cheap it looks like we will lay in a stock
> of a couple of hundred 40s, 60s and 100s, for a cost of about $50,
> when the time comes. That should last about twenty years! And any
> extra electricity used will be offset by using less (electricity) for
> heating.
>
> Using CFLs outside does make sense; any 'wasted' heat out there merely
> heats the night air! But so far our experience with fairly cheap CFLs
> in temperatures down to about minus 10 C has not been too good. My
> neighbour has used them but I notice he retains one or two
> incandescents near his front door; maybe doesn't want to get sued if
> someone stumbles?
>
> This CFL business is a good ide perhaps for an instance saving/
> reduction in electcity consumption in some cases but not everyone
> should be jumping on the bandwagon without understanding the number.
>
> BTW just drove into this small Arabian Gulf capital city at night,
> over 50 miles of highway, light traffic, brightly lit with double lamp
> standard every couple of hundred feet. All electricity here generated
> by burning fossil fuel; hell they pump it and refine it! Gasoline at
> the pumps here is 23 cents per litre, about one dollar per US gallon.
> Hundreds of miles of highways and roads with street lamps burning all
> night, around the world; much of the electrcity generated by oil,
> coal, etc. Why?????
>
> Take a look at that 'The world at night' satellite picture to see how
> much light-pollution we humans are wasting. |
I'm confused Terry.
Your E mail addy tells me ou are in canada.
I'm not sure how the US legislation will impact you.
Surelythe folks in Ottowa are not followig tose in DC?
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