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Posted by ransley on January 18, 2008, 6:00 pm
wrote:
> AIUI, Congress in its infinite wisdom has enacted something which within
> some
> period of years will effectively ban the manufacture / sale within the
> US of the
> traditional incandescent light bulb, requiring replacment with various
> "flavors" of
> fluorescents or diode or other bulbs.
>
> In that regard, I have had a few questions come up in my mind based on
> experiences
> =A0 I have had wih non incandescent bulbs. =A0I am seeking your opinons on=
> (and specific
> brand / model #s of) possible replacement non incandescent bulbs in the
> following
> applicaions:
>
> 1. Outdoor Motion Detector Fixtures.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 A. I have six (6) of these in various locations around my =
house. =A0Five
> are for
> =A0 pairs of the standard "flood light" type incandescent bulbs. =A0They a=
ll
> work fine with incandescent
> =A0 bulbs. =A0Not a single one will work at all when I replace the
> incandescent bulbs with
> =A0 outdoor fluorescent bulbs. =A0What fluorescents or other non
> incandecents will actually
> work in this type of fixture?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Note: All grounds are "good" on all 5 fixtures. =A0"Hots" a=
re wired
> to hot inside boxes, and neutrals are wired to neutral in all boxes.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 B. =A0I have one motion detector fixture in a sheltered co=
vered walkway
> which
> uses a pair of the very small quartz / halogen bulbs. What fluorescents
> or other non incandecents will actually
> work in this type of fixture?
>
> 2. =A0Outdoor Photocell Fixture. =A0I have one outdoor photocell fixture
> which uses a pair
> of the standard outdoor incandescent flood lights. =A0When I replace the
> pair of incandescent
> floods with outdoor fluorescents the fixture will not function.
>
> Again, in this fixture, the ground is "good" and the "hot" is wired to
> hot inside the
> box, and neutral is wired to neutral in the box.
>
> What fluorescents or other non incandecents will actually
> work in this type of fixture?
>
> 3. =A0Appliance bulbs. =A0While I have not yet tried to replace any of
> these, there are
> incandescent bulbs in the big upright freezer; the freezer part of the
> side by side
> refrgerator; the refrigerator itself; the electric oven, and the microwave=
.
>
> While these are all very brief intermittant use applicaions and not really=
> the kind of application consuming a lot of power, I don't see an
> exemption in the
> legislation for these types of incandescent bulbs.
>
> Has anyone already seen a non incandescent bulb for appliance applications=
?
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Over the last 10 years or so I have replaced every incande=
scent bulb in the
> house with a fluorescent bulb. =A0My KWH cosumption has gone down a lot,
> but the
> constant rate increases by Portland General Electric (PGE) have wiped
> out any actual
> dollar savings on my monthly bill or the reduced KWH consumption for
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I am not interested in your opinions as to whether banning=
incandescet
> bulbs
> is or is not good public policy. =A0I'm just trying to get info on what
> bulbs work in
> specific locations / applicatons / fixtures.
>
> Thank you.
I use cfl floods in motion sensors, they all light so It is likely
your units design, I use X10 units. At 20f they take 2 minutes to get
full bright. 10f 3 minutes, 0 f, 5-6 mintues so they wont scare anyone
any you wont want it in your frige. They will get better but for now
in cold they take a long time to brighten. Popular mechanics magazine
did a review-test. In 4 years Leds might be alot better.
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