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Incandescent Bulb Ban -- Motion Detector Fixtures, Poto cell fixtures and other exotic applications jJim McLaughlin 01-18-2008
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Posted by on January 19, 2008, 6:29 am
On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:44:01 -0800, jJim McLaughlin

>AIUI, Congress in its infinite wisdom has enacted something which within
>some
>period of years will effectively ban the manufacture / sale within the
>US of the
>traditional incandescent light bulb, requiring replacment with various
>"flavors" of
>fluorescents or diode or other bulbs.

Thats when I plan to install all 1500W incandescent light bulbs
http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Light-Bulbs/10241


Posted by Don Klipstein on January 20, 2008, 8:13 pm
>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:44:01 -0800, jJim McLaughlin
>
>>AIUI, Congress in its infinite wisdom has enacted something which within
>>some
>>period of years will effectively ban the manufacture / sale within the
>>US of the
>>traditional incandescent light bulb, requiring replacment with various
>>"flavors" of
>>fluorescents or diode or other bulbs.
>
>Thats when I plan to install all 1500W incandescent light bulbs
>http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Light-Bulbs/10241

Page not found

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by on January 22, 2008, 11:12 pm
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:13:25 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
Klipstein) wrote:

>>On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:44:01 -0800, jJim McLaughlin
>>
>>>AIUI, Congress in its infinite wisdom has enacted something which within
>>>some
>>>period of years will effectively ban the manufacture / sale within the
>>>US of the
>>>traditional incandescent light bulb, requiring replacment with various
>>>"flavors" of
>>>fluorescents or diode or other bulbs.
>>
>>Thats when I plan to install all 1500W incandescent light bulbs
>>http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Light-Bulbs/10241
>
> Page not found
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

You're right. Remove the numbers at the end, or just click on correct
link below. Not sure how those numbers got on there?
http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Light-Bulbs




Posted by Don Klipstein on January 23, 2008, 5:30 pm
wrote:
>On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:13:25 +0000 (UTC), don@manx.misty.com (Don
>Klipstein) wrote:
>>>
>>>Thats when I plan to install all 1500W incandescent light bulbs
>>>http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Light-Bulbs/10241
>>
>> Page not found
>>
>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>
>You're right. Remove the numbers at the end, or just click on correct
>link below. Not sure how those numbers got on there?
>http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Light-Bulbs

I found that I need to put a slash at the end of this to make it work.

I also found a link leading to this, and also to their "compact"
fluorescent equivalents:

http://www.1000bulbs.com/500-to-1500-Watt-Incandescents/

I believe other similar places such as bulbs.com has these.

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Posted by Jim Redelfs on January 21, 2008, 8:15 am

> I am seeking your opinons on (and specific brand / model #s of)
> possible replacement non incandescent bulbs in the following
> applicaions: <snip>
>         I am not interested in your opinions as to whether banning incandescet
> bulbs is or is not good public policy. I'm just trying to get info on
> what bulbs work in specific locations / applicatons / fixtures.

I am the poster of the original "Goodbye 75w..." thread that went on for weeks
and garnered hundreds of replies. It was an amazing thing to follow.

It is my understanding that the phase-out affects ONLY 75w and 100w
incandescent lamps and is due in 2012. If your query is of OTHER wattages,
you probably have little (currently) about which to be concerned.

The biggest advantage to CF (compact fluorescent) lamps, to me anyway, is
their considerably lower operating temperature. This is a distinct advantage
particularly in those fixtures where the lamp(s) is enclosed. It is the HEAT
from the incandescent lamps in these applications that "kill" them. IOW, they
are somewhat self-destructive.

I recently replaced the incandescent lamps in my outdoor fixtures with
brighter CFs. Although the CFs don't achieve full brightness in the cold for
a minute or two, I am satisfied with their performance enough that I intend to
keep them. I enjoy the increased light output and the fact that I can leave
them on overnight for probably less than it costs to run the incandescent
lamps for only a few hours.

Your query seems, with one exception, to involve automatically switched
(motion detecting and photocell) fixtures. You were articulate enough that I
am convinced there is no trouble with the fixtures. Given that and your
failed tests with fluorescent lamps, the only thing I can imagine is that
there is a loading problem. Rather, I suspect the CFs don't provide a
sufficient load for the switches to operate. It's just a WAG. Perhaps
someone with more expertise will reply.

In the case of motion detection-activated lampholders, I suspect that a
fluorescent wouldn't be appropriate. CFs are comparatively slower to achieve
full brightness than incandescents, particularly when they are cold, and I
wonder if the cycling would cause the CF to fail sooner.

Good luck. Please let us know if you find a solution.
--
:)
JR

No project too small
All projects too big

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