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Posted by ransley on May 4, 2008, 4:15 pm
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> > thanks for the info. =A0 sounds hoaky to me though.
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> > >>What's this bs about a ban? =A0I've not kept up with the messages.
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> > > =A0A recently enacted piece of USA Federal legislation bans manufactur=
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> > > sale and importation of certain incandescent lamps, starting in 2012.
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> > > =A0"General purpose" incandescent lamps of a certain range of light ou=
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> > > and failing to achieve some specific standard of energy efficiency wil=
l be
> > > banned in 2012. =A0This will include 100 and 75 watt "regular"
> > > incandescents. =A0In 2014, this will expand to include 60 and 40 watt
> > > "regular" incandescents that fail to meet that level of energy efficie=
ncy.
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> > > =A0The "usual regular" incandescents of 75-100 watts will be banned in=
2012
> > > and the "usual regular" incandescents of 40-60 watts will be banned in=
> > > 2014.
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> > > =A0The improved incandescents that Paul Eldridge and I mentioned have
> > > sufficient energy efficiency to not be affected until 2020 according t=
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> > > this law.
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> > > =A0GE is planning to put similar ones on the market in 2010.
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> > > =A0"Specialty" incandescents are largely not affected. =A0Paul Eldridg=
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> > > posted a list of unaffected ones in the "candlelight thread" in
> > > alt.home.repair on April 20 in article
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> > > =A0That one can be viewed via Google (along with 24 other articles in =
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> > > "candlelight thread" of at least 104 articles) by going to:
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> > >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.home.repair/browse_thread/thread/
> > > 695cb5879218f939/b9f8c930e2f6a64e?hl=3Den&
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> > > =A0That article also mentions availability at Home Depot of incandesce=
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> > > that have sufficient energy efficiency to not be banned in 2012-2014.
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> > > - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)- Hide quoted text -
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> Apart from possible health problems which frankly seemed far-fetched!
> We keep posting the following: People do not seem to realise that so
> called 'wasted electricity' creates warmth!
> Here we use electricity most months of the year for home heating.
> Especially cool/cold evenings when lights tend to be on anyway.
> Any 'wasted' heat from the use of 'old fashioned' incandescent bulbs,
> which cost about 25 cents each btw, merely helps to warm the house! So
> the electric heaters in the rooms in use don't cut in as often.
> We have a bathroom for example which when in use has six 40 watt
> bulbs, the wasted heat from those 240 watts of non CFL bulbs, means
> that the 500 watt bathroom electric heater rarely cuts in at all!
> Similarly our computer/bedroom is heated almost entirely by two
> computers running almost continuously and one desk lamp at night.
> In other words if one uses electricity for heating anyway, almost
> every month of the year, from October through July it doesn't matter
> how it becomes household warmth!
> Using CFLs outside for lights that are on for lengthy periods where
> the heat would be wasted does make sense. But that seems to be a use
> where CFLs do not perform well in cold climates?
> One big electricity 'waster' is a domestic dryer, which chucks damp
> heated air outside, to avoid mildew/mould and dampness problems.
> Use a clothesline as much as possible when weather allows; even cold
> weather.
> Also CFLs are said to not work a well where they are frequently switch
> on/off such as stairways, cupboards, occasional visits to a shed etc.
> Also they don't work (or don't work well) in outside lights equipped
> with sensors that come on when someone comes close to them!
> All in all not convinced yet that there is an overall saving and in
> view of the ten times cost of CFLs, that they are regarded as
> 'Hazardous waste' by garbage collectors etc. not yet in the mood to
> give up the incandescents. We have a neighbour who is heavily into
> CFLs, three of which are outside and on all night. Since within their
> house they use electrcity for heating there has been effectively no
> decrease in thei elctricity consumption or their power bill!- Hide quoted =
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You are of a minority group that does not use AC in summer, and has
cheaper electric than NG.
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