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Posted by max on May 4, 2008, 7:17 am
don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> >jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
> >> krw wrote:
> >> > jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
>
>
> >> You've been listening to way too much wingnut radio/tv. Such is right
> >> wing opinion in that it is all opinion and no facts. Just insult anyone
> >> who disagrees. Don't let reality get in the way.
> >
> >Absolutely the truth, which your "argument" falls well short of
> >addressing.
> >
> >> BTW, I have an old fashioned toilet because I live in an old house, but
> >> have no objection to the new design toilets. The new ones work, as
> >> opposed to the first generation.
> >
> >You like to spout government lies. I have a set of "new" ones.
> >They don't.
>
> I see so many 1.6 gallon/flush toilets nowadays that work as well as
> toilets ever did. This does have an effect on my consideration as to
> which side I would call a liar!
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
and while we're at it (vis a vis the original subject of incandescent
lights vs. CFs)... just who are these Dutch Masters whose calibrated
retinas are so acutely attuned to color temperature and chromatic
rendition?
I got in early. Sometime year before last, or possibly early last year,
Menards had gigantic palettes of CFs for sale at less than $1 bulb, or
something like that, for 2-packs of Sylvania Soft White 13 watt
"mini-60's".
Worsk great. I relamped almost the entire house and bought enough extra
tubes to relamp it 1.5 times more. I have several in vented base-up
track fixtures, and a few in unvented base-up globes and haven't had any
problems. None have died, and my electric bill has dropped measurably
and significantly.
And, amazingly, i can still tell what color my stuff is! I very much
don't notice any "difference" in "color rendition" between natural
sunlight and my CFs, and i've tried to ... well, notice.
Puerile whinging, i say...
Of course, the Damoclean sword looms menacing for the day that one burns
out, when i shall throw myself bodily in the street, shrieking in agony
from Murcury Possoming [sic] and beg my neighbors to euthanize me before
the EPA plucks my parrot and drowns me in tank of HgX and locks me away
in Camp X-ray for environmental terrism [sic].
oh wait. i'll just put it in a little plastic grocery bag until it's
convenient for me to drop it off at some recycling center somewhere.
Neverminds...
CF's rule. Esp. when one realizes that a very very modest investment
in CF's in this country frees up generating capacity equivalent to a few
gigawatts of nuclear (or coal, for that matter) power plants.
Should be a Know Brainer for the anti-Coal people, the Anti-Nuke people,
the Anti-Natural Gas Peaker Plant people and the Anti-building High
Tension Distribution Power Lines IN MY BACK YARD IN MY FORMERLY A
CORNFIELD SUBDEVELOPMENT people.
Oh, ya. Someone said on the radio at lunch that it would be harder to
see the ZOG watermark on my $1000 bills that I like to count before i go
to walmart. I Forgot. I don't have the Dutch Master's eye.
BTW, CF's rule. Old school wolfram tubes drool.
.max
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Posted by ransley on May 4, 2008, 8:13 am
On May 4, 12:20=A0am, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
>
> >jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
> >> krw wrote:
> >> > jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
>
>
> >> You've been listening to way too much wingnut radio/tv. Such is right
> >> wing opinion in that it is all opinion and no facts. Just insult anyone=
> >> who disagrees. Don't let reality get in the way.
>
> >Absolutely the truth, which your "argument" falls well short of
> >addressing.
>
> >> BTW, I have an old fashioned toilet because I live in an old house, but=
> >> have no objection to the new design toilets. The new ones work, as
> >> opposed to the first generation.
>
> >You like to spout government lies. =A0I have a set of "new" ones. =A0
> >They don't. =A0
>
> =A0 I see so many 1.6 gallon/flush toilets nowadays that work as well as
> toilets ever did. =A0This does have an effect on my consideration as to
> which side I would call a liar!
>
> =A0- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
HDs 60$ Glacier bay 1.6 works just fine, I just put in 12.
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Posted by Harry K on May 4, 2008, 9:44 am
On May 3, 10:20=A0pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
>
> >jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
> >> krw wrote:
> >> > jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
>
>
> >> You've been listening to way too much wingnut radio/tv. Such is right
> >> wing opinion in that it is all opinion and no facts. Just insult anyone=
> >> who disagrees. Don't let reality get in the way.
>
> >Absolutely the truth, which your "argument" falls well short of
> >addressing.
>
> >> BTW, I have an old fashioned toilet because I live in an old house, but=
> >> have no objection to the new design toilets. The new ones work, as
> >> opposed to the first generation.
>
> >You like to spout government lies. =A0I have a set of "new" ones. =A0
> >They don't. =A0
>
> =A0 I see so many 1.6 gallon/flush toilets nowadays that work as well as
> toilets ever did. =A0This does have an effect on my consideration as to
> which side I would call a liar!
>
> =A0- Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
Mine, a "Jake" model from Toto, works better than any of the old ones
I ever had.
As for CFLs, I put them in years ago. After one day of use, I don't
even notice the difference. Haven't tried the newer models yet as
only 1 of the old ones needed replacing. The only drawback I have
seen is in the outside lights - the warm up period before they come up
to full power.
Harry K
Harry K
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Posted by krw on May 4, 2008, 6:15 pm
says...
> >jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
> >> krw wrote:
> >> > jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
>
>
> >> You've been listening to way too much wingnut radio/tv. Such is right
> >> wing opinion in that it is all opinion and no facts. Just insult anyone
> >> who disagrees. Don't let reality get in the way.
> >
> >Absolutely the truth, which your "argument" falls well short of
> >addressing.
> >
> >> BTW, I have an old fashioned toilet because I live in an old house, but
> >> have no objection to the new design toilets. The new ones work, as
> >> opposed to the first generation.
> >
> >You like to spout government lies. I have a set of "new" ones.
> >They don't.
>
> I see so many 1.6 gallon/flush toilets nowadays that work as well as
> toilets ever did.
I have two that need three flushes or they plug first.
> This does have an effect on my consideration as to
> which side I would call a liar!
Of course you say that, without facts. It doesn't fit your narrow
view of the world.
--
Keith
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Posted by Don Klipstein on May 4, 2008, 11:34 pm
>says...
>> >jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
>> >> krw wrote:
>> >> > jeff@spam_me_not.com says...
>>
>>
>> >> You've been listening to way too much wingnut radio/tv. Such is right
>> >> wing opinion in that it is all opinion and no facts. Just insult anyone
>> >> who disagrees. Don't let reality get in the way.
>> >
>> >Absolutely the truth, which your "argument" falls well short of
>> >addressing.
>> >
>> >> BTW, I have an old fashioned toilet because I live in an old house, but
>> >> have no objection to the new design toilets. The new ones work, as
>> >> opposed to the first generation.
>> >
>> >You like to spout government lies. I have a set of "new" ones.
>> >They don't.
>>
>> I see so many 1.6 gallon/flush toilets nowadays that work as well as
>> toilets ever did.
>
>I have two that need three flushes or they plug first.
>
>> This does have an effect on my consideration as to
>> which side I would call a liar!
>
>Of course you say that, without facts. It doesn't fit your narrow
>view of the world.
Facts such as existence of plenty of 1.6 gallon/flush toilets that work
as well as toilets ever did? I have seen plenty of those. Maybe you need
some new toilets!
Meanwhile, even the lousy ones of the 1.6 GPF toilets still only need
one flush for a #1 load.
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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