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Installation cost of "porch ceiling" MiamiCuse 05-18-2007
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Posted by betsyb on May 19, 2007, 3:00 pm
This sounds a lot like a situation my kid was in. He bought a stackable
washer/dryer unit to go into his 3rd floor condo in South Beach, Fl. I heard
the estimates he got for over 1000 and promptly called him. I sent my
husband down from NJ and he was done in three days. {trips to HD for
extras}Whole thing cost less than 300. Including airfare.

--



BetsyB



> Hey I'm in on this bidding, I'm a painting contractor, I'll fly down and
> paint and install for that price.
>
>>
>>>I need to install T1-11 boards as ceiling in a porch area. I have about
>>>800 SF of porch space and I was quoted a price of $6500 to install it
>>>(labor + material). The labor involves cutting the 4x8 sheets to the
>>>porch dimension, in some areas I have overhead hi-hats so those need to
>>>be cut. For the most part it is pretty straight and uncomplicated. It
>>>does NOT include the cost of painting the boards. The materials will be
>>>the boards themselves which sells for about $22.00 per sheet in local
>>>lumber yards, staple guns and nails. Now this works out to be $8/SF.
>>>This is more expensive than laying tiles!
>>>
>>> I asked the guy and he said hanging stuff upside down (the porch is 7
>>> feet from the floor reachable by hand without being on a ladder) is very
>>> difficult and that is why its so expensive.
>>>
>>> Anyone knows what the on going rate should be?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> At that price, I can take a week vacation, buy air tickets for my wife
>> and I and get the job done with plenty of time for sunning on the beach.
>> I'd figure $650 for material, $300 for a small compressor and nail gun,
>> leaving an easy $5000+ for labor to hang 25 sheets. That is $200 per
>> sheet. For that price I'd expect you can get the Sistine Chapel sided
>> and repainted.
>>
>> How about you do it with the help of the teenager next door?
>>
>
>



Posted by Joe on May 18, 2007, 11:13 pm

MiamiCuse wrote:
> I need to install T1-11 boards as ceiling in a porch area. I have about 800
> SF of porch space and I was quoted a price of $6500 to install it (labor +
> material). The labor involves cutting the 4x8 sheets to the porch
> dimension, in some areas I have overhead hi-hats so those need to be cut.
> For the most part it is pretty straight and uncomplicated. It does NOT
> include the cost of painting the boards. The materials will be the boards
> themselves which sells for about $22.00 per sheet in local lumber yards,
> staple guns and nails. Now this works out to be $8/SF. This is more
> expensive than laying tiles!
>
> I asked the guy and he said hanging stuff upside down (the porch is 7 feet
> from the floor reachable by hand without being on a ladder) is very
> difficult and that is why its so expensive.
>
> Anyone knows what the on going rate should be?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> MC

You already know the rough cost of materials, so ask the contractor
how long the job will take. If, for example he says 3 days, call that
24 work hours times two for an installer and helper, or 48 hours
labor, so round that off to 50 hours to allow cleanup time. With
material at about $600. that leaves $5900 in labor cost, so the two
guys are making $118 per hour. This is two to three times what most
tradesmen will ask for. If the $5900 is near correct, then an
installer and helper at $45 per hour would take 130 some hours or more
than three weeks.
Seems to me things aren't quite right there. Might be a good idea to
get some other quotes and references while you're at it. Good luck.

Joe


Posted by MiamiCuse on May 19, 2007, 5:11 am

>
> MiamiCuse wrote:
>> I need to install T1-11 boards as ceiling in a porch area. I have about
>> 800
>> SF of porch space and I was quoted a price of $6500 to install it (labor
>> +
>> material). The labor involves cutting the 4x8 sheets to the porch
>> dimension, in some areas I have overhead hi-hats so those need to be cut.
>> For the most part it is pretty straight and uncomplicated. It does NOT
>> include the cost of painting the boards. The materials will be the
>> boards
>> themselves which sells for about $22.00 per sheet in local lumber yards,
>> staple guns and nails. Now this works out to be $8/SF. This is more
>> expensive than laying tiles!
>>
>> I asked the guy and he said hanging stuff upside down (the porch is 7
>> feet
>> from the floor reachable by hand without being on a ladder) is very
>> difficult and that is why its so expensive.
>>
>> Anyone knows what the on going rate should be?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> MC
>
> You already know the rough cost of materials, so ask the contractor
> how long the job will take. If, for example he says 3 days, call that
> 24 work hours times two for an installer and helper, or 48 hours
> labor, so round that off to 50 hours to allow cleanup time. With
> material at about $600. that leaves $5900 in labor cost, so the two
> guys are making $118 per hour. This is two to three times what most
> tradesmen will ask for. If the $5900 is near correct, then an
> installer and helper at $45 per hour would take 130 some hours or more
> than three weeks.
> Seems to me things aren't quite right there. Might be a good idea to
> get some other quotes and references while you're at it. Good luck.
>
> Joe
>

That's a good way to figure it. Thanks!

MC



Posted by EXT on May 19, 2007, 8:50 pm

>
>>
>> MiamiCuse wrote:
>>> I need to install T1-11 boards as ceiling in a porch area. I have about
>>> 800
>>> SF of porch space and I was quoted a price of $6500 to install it (labor
>>> +
>>> material). The labor involves cutting the 4x8 sheets to the porch
>>> dimension, in some areas I have overhead hi-hats so those need to be
>>> cut.
>>> For the most part it is pretty straight and uncomplicated. It does NOT
>>> include the cost of painting the boards. The materials will be the
>>> boards
>>> themselves which sells for about $22.00 per sheet in local lumber yards,
>>> staple guns and nails. Now this works out to be $8/SF. This is more
>>> expensive than laying tiles!
>>>
>>> I asked the guy and he said hanging stuff upside down (the porch is 7
>>> feet
>>> from the floor reachable by hand without being on a ladder) is very
>>> difficult and that is why its so expensive.
>>>
>>> Anyone knows what the on going rate should be?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> MC
>>
>> You already know the rough cost of materials, so ask the contractor
>> how long the job will take. If, for example he says 3 days, call that
>> 24 work hours times two for an installer and helper, or 48 hours
>> labor, so round that off to 50 hours to allow cleanup time. With
>> material at about $600. that leaves $5900 in labor cost, so the two
>> guys are making $118 per hour. This is two to three times what most
>> tradesmen will ask for. If the $5900 is near correct, then an
>> installer and helper at $45 per hour would take 130 some hours or more
>> than three weeks.
>> Seems to me things aren't quite right there. Might be a good idea to
>> get some other quotes and references while you're at it. Good luck.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>
> That's a good way to figure it. Thanks!
>
> MC
Also keep in mind that a high quote is the contractor's way of saying "I
don't want to do the job, get someone else!" Get more quotes.



Posted by RicodJour on May 18, 2007, 11:30 pm
> I need to install T1-11 boards as ceiling in a porch area. I have about 800
> SF of porch space and I was quoted a price of $6500 to install it (labor +
> material). The labor involves cutting the 4x8 sheets to the porch
> dimension, in some areas I have overhead hi-hats so those need to be cut.
> For the most part it is pretty straight and uncomplicated. It does NOT
> include the cost of painting the boards. The materials will be the boards
> themselves which sells for about $22.00 per sheet in local lumber yards,
> staple guns and nails. Now this works out to be $8/SF. This is more
> expensive than laying tiles!
>
> I asked the guy and he said hanging stuff upside down (the porch is 7 feet
> from the floor reachable by hand without being on a ladder) is very
> difficult and that is why its so expensive.
>
> Anyone knows what the on going rate should be?

You've been working on the house for a while now with a few stumbling
blocks along the way. Constantly shopping for contractors is wasting
your time and money. Money that could be put to far better use hiring
a qualified contractor that would be willing to work on more than one
project on your house.

It's pointless to ask the "going" rate. You need real numbers from
real contractors in your area. The number you've gotten so far is in
"unreal" territory. Call some other contractors and get some more
numbers. Talk to some material suppliers, hardware stores, neighbors,
postman, etc. and start putting together a list of recommended
contractors. When you start seeing the same names pop up, you've
found a good place to start.

Contractors' prices usually improve as the contractor becomes familiar
with whoever hired them, whether GC or homeowner. Once they've
learned that you're not an unknown quantity - not a pain in the ass,
nit-picking perfectionist, slow paying, unrealistic expectations -
their risk decreases and they enjoy the job more. Two critical
elements in getting good prices.

Do the legwork now. Find that guy that's willing to tackle an
assortment of jobs as your finances allow. It'll be effort well
spent.

R


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