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Installing A Stove Scott 07-17-2008
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Posted by Scott on July 17, 2008, 4:14 pm
I'm replacing a 30-year old electric Frigidaire drop-in stove with a new Kenwood
electric drop-in. The old stove has a 220v electrical input consisting of a black
wire, a black wire with a red stripe, a grey wire and a ground wire. I believe
the
man at the Sears store said that new stoves have two wires, plus a ground wire.
What's the proper way to hook up the wiring?

Thanks!
Scott

Posted by RBM on July 17, 2008, 5:02 pm

> I'm replacing a 30-year old electric Frigidaire drop-in stove with a new
> Kenwood
> electric drop-in. The old stove has a 220v electrical input consisting of
> a black
> wire, a black wire with a red stripe, a grey wire and a ground wire. I
> believe the
> man at the Sears store said that new stoves have two wires, plus a ground
> wire.
> What's the proper way to hook up the wiring?
>
> Thanks!
> Scott

Your old stove was connected to two hot legs, which were the black and black
with red tracer, a neutral which was the gray, and a ground, which was green
or bare. The new stove does not use a neutral, so cap that wire and just use
the two hot legs and the ground. Typically a stove does use both neutral and
ground, but often cooktops (unit with no oven) do not



Posted by Scott on July 17, 2008, 8:37 pm


RBM wrote:
>
> > I'm replacing a 30-year old electric Frigidaire drop-in stove with a new
> > Kenwood
> > electric drop-in. The old stove has a 220v electrical input consisting of
> > a black
> > wire, a black wire with a red stripe, a grey wire and a ground wire. I
> > believe the
> > man at the Sears store said that new stoves have two wires, plus a ground
> > wire.
> > What's the proper way to hook up the wiring?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Scott
>
> Your old stove was connected to two hot legs, which were the black and black
> with red tracer, a neutral which was the gray, and a ground, which was green
> or bare. The new stove does not use a neutral, so cap that wire and just use
> the two hot legs and the ground. Typically a stove does use both neutral and
> ground, but often cooktops (unit with no oven) do not

RBM,

As it turned out, the new stove came with a black wire, a red wire, a neutral
wire, and a green wire (the ground). So we matched it up with the original
setup, and it works great!

Scott

Posted by David L. Martel on July 17, 2008, 7:05 pm
Scott,

Are you sure that the new stove is 220v? You don't say in your post
I'd read the installation manual carefully since the sales guy lead you
to believe that there is no neutral wire. I can imagine that the neutral and
ground are connected by a buss link but I can't imagine a stove without a
neutral in the US.
In the old days stoves used a neutral and 2 hot wires. with the ground
attached to the neutral.

Dave M.



Posted by Kevin Ricks on July 17, 2008, 7:39 pm
David L. Martel wrote:
> Scott,
>
> Are you sure that the new stove is 220v? You don't say in your post
> I'd read the installation manual carefully since the sales guy lead you
> to believe that there is no neutral wire. I can imagine that the neutral and
> ground are connected by a buss link but I can't imagine a stove without a
> neutral in the US.
> In the old days stoves used a neutral and 2 hot wires. with the ground
> attached to the neutral.
>
> Dave M.
>
>

I have seen plenty of stove and other 240V wiring without a neutral. 2
hots and ground with the ground wire connected and used as a neutral.
One house I lived in built in the mid '50's had just that. The ground
wire being a few haphazard strands of bare wire in the cable and
connected to the ground bus in the panel.

New 240V wiring is required to be 4 wire. I think most stoves can be
configured to use 3 wire if needed to accommodate the older wiring.
Kevin

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