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Installing Laminate, old Vinyl Floor Squeaks VV 05-07-2007
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Posted by VV on May 7, 2007, 8:28 pm
Folks,
I am installling new Laminate Flooring. In the Kitchen we have 25 yr
old Vinyl. I have been debating whether to remove it or install
laminate right over it.
Also, I have some spots where the floor squeaks when walked over those
areas.
Some contractors said that removing the vinyl will get rid of the
noise. Some said the subfloor is the one making the noise, so getting
rid of the vinyl wont help.

What is recommended from the experienced folks in this newsgroup?
-VV


Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on May 7, 2007, 9:24 pm

> Folks,
> I am installling new Laminate Flooring. In the Kitchen we have 25 yr
> old Vinyl. I have been debating whether to remove it or install
> laminate right over it.
> Also, I have some spots where the floor squeaks when walked over those
> areas.
> Some contractors said that removing the vinyl will get rid of the
> noise. Some said the subfloor is the one making the noise, so getting
> rid of the vinyl wont help.
>
> What is recommended from the experienced folks in this newsgroup?
> -VV

I don't see that removing the vinyl will get rid of a squeak, but I'd take
it out so assure it does not cause problems down the road. Then I'd add
some crews tot he existing subfloor to get rid of the noises.
--
Ed
http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/



Posted by Art on May 7, 2007, 10:50 pm
I would remove the vinyl but if it is full glued down that won't be easy.
Vinyl outgasses forever so that is why I would get rid of it. Also will let
go at the exact wrong time.


> Folks,
> I am installling new Laminate Flooring. In the Kitchen we have 25 yr
> old Vinyl. I have been debating whether to remove it or install
> laminate right over it.
> Also, I have some spots where the floor squeaks when walked over those
> areas.
> Some contractors said that removing the vinyl will get rid of the
> noise. Some said the subfloor is the one making the noise, so getting
> rid of the vinyl wont help.
>
> What is recommended from the experienced folks in this newsgroup?
> -VV
>



Posted by Chris Lewis on May 8, 2007, 12:23 pm
> I would remove the vinyl but if it is full glued down that won't be easy.
> Vinyl outgasses forever so that is why I would get rid of it. Also will let
> go at the exact wrong time.

Let go exactly where? Catatrophic collapse means that the laminate
falls about 1/8" ;-)
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

Posted by EXT on May 8, 2007, 12:29 pm
Vinyl does not squeak. Wood does, especially when nails are not tight.

The vinyl is probably fully glued down to a plywood underlay. Use a circular
saw with a cheap blade set to cut through the vinyl and the plywood underlay
but not the subfloor. Cut it into squares about 2 feet square and use a flat
garden spade to lift and jam under the plywood to pull it away from the
subfloor. When all that is removed, screw the subfloor tightly to the joists
with lots of screws and hammer any loose nails down tight.

Then start preparing to properly install the new floor.

>I would remove the vinyl but if it is full glued down that won't be easy.
>Vinyl outgasses forever so that is why I would get rid of it. Also will
>let go at the exact wrong time.
>
>
>> Folks,
>> I am installling new Laminate Flooring. In the Kitchen we have 25 yr
>> old Vinyl. I have been debating whether to remove it or install
>> laminate right over it.
>> Also, I have some spots where the floor squeaks when walked over those
>> areas.
>> Some contractors said that removing the vinyl will get rid of the
>> noise. Some said the subfloor is the one making the noise, so getting
>> rid of the vinyl wont help.
>>
>> What is recommended from the experienced folks in this newsgroup?
>> -VV
>>
>
>



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