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Installing Vent in Tar and Gravel Roof warrenshudson 08-04-2006
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Posted by Eric in North TX on August 7, 2006, 9:02 pm

"would that be "trowel grade" roofing cement?"
I'd think that would be appropriate.


Posted by hallerb@aol.com on August 7, 2006, 9:06 pm

warrenshudson@gmail.com wrote:
> That is probabaly exactly what i will do. I like the hibatchi idea,
> though, so I can make my lunch too. Maybee i will just forget the
> bathroom vent :) actually, would that be "trowel grade" roofing cement?
>
>
> Eric in North TX wrote:
> > What I used to do when needing to deal with tar; buy a bucket at a home
> > improvement store, set up a grill, hibachi or whatever, heat it while
> > getting the site ready then haul it up with a rope when needed, wear
> > gloves & appropriate safety gear. The hot tar spreads so nicely.

adding this will create a future maintence headache as things expand
and contract differently over the years. better to vent out a wall......


Posted by Don Young on August 7, 2006, 10:57 pm

>
> warrenshudson@gmail.com wrote:
>> That is probabaly exactly what i will do. I like the hibatchi idea,
>> though, so I can make my lunch too. Maybee i will just forget the
>> bathroom vent :) actually, would that be "trowel grade" roofing cement?
>>
>>
>> Eric in North TX wrote:
>> > What I used to do when needing to deal with tar; buy a bucket at a home
>> > improvement store, set up a grill, hibachi or whatever, heat it while
>> > getting the site ready then haul it up with a rope when needed, wear
>> > gloves & appropriate safety gear. The hot tar spreads so nicely.
>
> adding this will create a future maintence headache as things expand
> and contract differently over the years. better to vent out a wall......
>
Any penetration of a tar and gravel roof at the roof level will eventually
leak because of movement, even if just expansion and contraction. It is best
to build a curb around the penetration. The curb can be securely fastened to
the roof so it moves with the roof. Then the inner part of the curb can be
filled with a flexible sealant up several inches above the roof. A metal
flashing can then be secured tightly to the penetrating pipe, extending like
a tent out over the edge of the curb to keep rainwater and sunlight off of
the sealant. Any roofer who does commercial flat roofs can give you details.

Don Young



Posted by on August 8, 2006, 4:38 pm
Don- I am sure that is probabaly true, however, the kitchen vent is
done the same way as I want to do the bathroom vent and it would be
very visible from the street. I inspect the roof and add tar as
necessecary every few years anyway, so I am not all that concerned
about the bathroom vent expanding, etc. I will bring up the curb idea
when we get a new roof, the existing roof is 16 years old and is
showing only moderate wear at the corners, which I plan to address when
I do the bathroom vent. Is there anything that can be done besides a
curb that will be better than a simple flashing?
Don Young wrote:
> >
> > warrenshudson@gmail.com wrote:
> >> That is probabaly exactly what i will do. I like the hibatchi idea,
> >> though, so I can make my lunch too. Maybee i will just forget the
> >> bathroom vent :) actually, would that be "trowel grade" roofing cement?
> >>
> >>
> >> Eric in North TX wrote:
> >> > What I used to do when needing to deal with tar; buy a bucket at a home
> >> > improvement store, set up a grill, hibachi or whatever, heat it while
> >> > getting the site ready then haul it up with a rope when needed, wear
> >> > gloves & appropriate safety gear. The hot tar spreads so nicely.
> >
> > adding this will create a future maintence headache as things expand
> > and contract differently over the years. better to vent out a wall......
> >
> Any penetration of a tar and gravel roof at the roof level will eventually
> leak because of movement, even if just expansion and contraction. It is best
> to build a curb around the penetration. The curb can be securely fastened to
> the roof so it moves with the roof. Then the inner part of the curb can be
> filled with a flexible sealant up several inches above the roof. A metal
> flashing can then be secured tightly to the penetrating pipe, extending like
> a tent out over the edge of the curb to keep rainwater and sunlight off of
> the sealant. Any roofer who does commercial flat roofs can give you details.
>
> Don Young


Posted by Don Young on August 8, 2006, 10:27 pm

> Don- I am sure that is probabaly true, however, the kitchen vent is
> done the same way as I want to do the bathroom vent and it would be
> very visible from the street. I inspect the roof and add tar as
> necessecary every few years anyway, so I am not all that concerned
> about the bathroom vent expanding, etc. I will bring up the curb idea
> when we get a new roof, the existing roof is 16 years old and is
> showing only moderate wear at the corners, which I plan to address when
> I do the bathroom vent. Is there anything that can be done besides a
> curb that will be better than a simple flashing?
> Don Young wrote:
>> >
>> > warrenshudson@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> That is probabaly exactly what i will do. I like the hibatchi idea,
>> >> though, so I can make my lunch too. Maybee i will just forget the
>> >> bathroom vent :) actually, would that be "trowel grade" roofing
>> >> cement?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Eric in North TX wrote:
>> >> > What I used to do when needing to deal with tar; buy a bucket at a
>> >> > home
>> >> > improvement store, set up a grill, hibachi or whatever, heat it
>> >> > while
>> >> > getting the site ready then haul it up with a rope when needed, wear
>> >> > gloves & appropriate safety gear. The hot tar spreads so nicely.
>> >
>> > adding this will create a future maintence headache as things expand
>> > and contract differently over the years. better to vent out a
>> > wall......
>> >
>> Any penetration of a tar and gravel roof at the roof level will
>> eventually
>> leak because of movement, even if just expansion and contraction. It is
>> best
>> to build a curb around the penetration. The curb can be securely fastened
>> to
>> the roof so it moves with the roof. Then the inner part of the curb can
>> be
>> filled with a flexible sealant up several inches above the roof. A metal
>> flashing can then be secured tightly to the penetrating pipe, extending
>> like
>> a tent out over the edge of the curb to keep rainwater and sunlight off
>> of
>> the sealant. Any roofer who does commercial flat roofs can give you
>> details.
>>
>> Don Young
>
Some sort of metal weathershield secured to the pipe to keep rain (and
especially sun) off of the sealed area would help. You might want it easily
removeable for inspection.
Don Young



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