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Is 6" recessed light actually 6"? MiamiCuse 02-20-2008
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Posted by RBM on February 24, 2008, 8:05 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I
>>>>took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in
>>>>diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited
>>>>various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a
>>>>diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to
>>>>ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the
>>>>hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit.
>>>>
>>>> If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows
>>>> that trims and housings of the same size may not match up?
>>>>
>>>> MC
>>>
>>> You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses
>>> different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be
>>> printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and
>>> post it
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded
>> and it's 35 years old.
>>
>
> OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a
> sticker in it that is still barely legible.
>
> It says:
>
> AT Lite Lighting Equipment
> E-15522
> Underwriters Laboratory, Inc.
>
> I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to
> sell lights.
>
> I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced.
>
> Thanks,
>
> MC

Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long Island,
NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old stuff is
not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were functionally
identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed fixtures. If you can
pull a trim and post a picture we could give more info
>
>



Posted by RBM on February 24, 2008, 8:31 am

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I
>>>>>took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in
>>>>>diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited
>>>>>various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a
>>>>>diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to
>>>>>ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the
>>>>>hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows
>>>>> that trims and housings of the same size may not match up?
>>>>>
>>>>> MC
>>>>
>>>> You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses
>>>> different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be
>>>> printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and
>>>> post it
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded
>>> and it's 35 years old.
>>>
>>
>> OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a
>> sticker in it that is still barely legible.
>>
>> It says:
>>
>> AT Lite Lighting Equipment
>> E-15522
>> Underwriters Laboratory, Inc.
>>
>> I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to
>> sell lights.
>>
>> I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> MC
>
> Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long
> Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old
> stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were
> functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed
> fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more
> info

Here is their online catalog: It appears that these days their selling
mostly commercial lighting and Halo brand,(another Cooper brand) clones. If
you scroll down past the exit and emergency lighting you'll find some older
and original Atlite stuff. Listed under specialty, they list a couple of hi
hats:

http://www.atlite-lighting.com/common/brands/literature/atlite/Atlite_Catalog.pdf
>>
>>
>
>



Posted by MiamiCuse on February 25, 2008, 7:12 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I
>>>>>>took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in
>>>>>>diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited
>>>>>>various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a
>>>>>>diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to
>>>>>>ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the
>>>>>>hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows
>>>>>> that trims and housings of the same size may not match up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MC
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses
>>>>> different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should
>>>>> be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing
>>>>> and post it
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded
>>>> and it's 35 years old.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a
>>> sticker in it that is still barely legible.
>>>
>>> It says:
>>>
>>> AT Lite Lighting Equipment
>>> E-15522
>>> Underwriters Laboratory, Inc.
>>>
>>> I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to
>>> sell lights.
>>>
>>> I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> MC
>>
>> Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long
>> Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old
>> stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were
>> functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed
>> fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more
>> info
>
> Here is their online catalog: It appears that these days their selling
> mostly commercial lighting and Halo brand,(another Cooper brand) clones.
> If you scroll down past the exit and emergency lighting you'll find some
> older and original Atlite stuff. Listed under specialty, they list a
> couple of hi hats:
>
>
http://www.atlite-lighting.com/common/brands/literature/atlite/Atlite_Catalog.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>

Wow RBM you are the man, I see the light now, literally.

I have like 40 of these cans on the outside that needs replacement or
repair, I will check their catalog and see what they have. I did not know
they invented recessed lights. I believe these lights were installed in
1972, so they lasted 35 years is not bad.

MC



Posted by John Grabowski on February 24, 2008, 3:40 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I
>>>>>took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in
>>>>>diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited
>>>>>various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a
>>>>>diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to
>>>>>ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the
>>>>>hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows
>>>>> that trims and housings of the same size may not match up?
>>>>>
>>>>> MC
>>>>
>>>> You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses
>>>> different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should be
>>>> printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing and
>>>> post it
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded
>>> and it's 35 years old.
>>>
>>
>> OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a
>> sticker in it that is still barely legible.
>>
>> It says:
>>
>> AT Lite Lighting Equipment
>> E-15522
>> Underwriters Laboratory, Inc.
>>
>> I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to
>> sell lights.
>>
>> I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> MC
>
> Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long
> Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old
> stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were
> functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed
> fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more
> info



I had a customer last year with a problem with two of her low voltage Atlite
recessed lights. They were identical to the Halo H99 low voltage. It was a
lot easier to order parts for Halo then it was for Atlite even though they
are both owned by Cooper. One thing I found out is that the Atlite models
are cheaper than the Halo's.


Posted by RBM on February 24, 2008, 4:19 pm

>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am going to replace some of my existing recessed lights, and when I
>>>>>>took one off and measured the knock out hole, it is exactly 7" in
>>>>>>diameter. I thought that means I have a 7" housing but when I visited
>>>>>>various web sites and looked at their 6" lights, most of them have a
>>>>>>diameter larger than 6", may be 6.25", or 6.5"...is there anyway to
>>>>>>ensure that the housing will fit? I don't want to have to enlarge the
>>>>>>hole because those are all T4 plywood soffit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a 6" housing can measure different diameters, I guess it follows
>>>>>> that trims and housings of the same size may not match up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MC
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to find what manufacturer made the fixtures. Everyone uses
>>>>> different measurements and socket arrangements etc. Something should
>>>>> be printed inside the trim or housing, or take a picture of the thing
>>>>> and post it
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I checked and there is no mark inside the housing, it's pretty corroded
>>>> and it's 35 years old.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK I examined the lights one by one and finally found one that has a
>>> sticker in it that is still barely legible.
>>>
>>> It says:
>>>
>>> AT Lite Lighting Equipment
>>> E-15522
>>> Underwriters Laboratory, Inc.
>>>
>>> I went to www.ul.com and there is such a company but they don't seem to
>>> sell lights.
>>>
>>> I have about 34 of these under my soffit eaves that need to be replaced.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> MC
>>
>> Atlite is the company that invented the "hi hat". They're from Long
>> Island, NY and have been bought by Cooper, I believe. They're really old
>> stuff is not compatible with any other brand, however newer models were
>> functionally identical to Lightolier 1000 and 1100 series recessed
>> fixtures. If you can pull a trim and post a picture we could give more
>> info
>
>
>
> I had a customer last year with a problem with two of her low voltage
> Atlite recessed lights. They were identical to the Halo H99 low voltage.
> It was a lot easier to order parts for Halo then it was for Atlite even
> though they are both owned by Cooper. One thing I found out is that the
> Atlite models are cheaper than the Halo's.

That's the same deal with their A149 , which is identical to Lightolier
1105. Twenty years ago the Lightolier trim cost about $25 and the Atlite $10

>



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