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Posted by mm on August 13, 2006, 11:29 pm
Is it possible to get Liquid Wrench or the equivalent in quarts.
Instead of the 4 oz bottles which is the largest size I've seen "nut
busters" in.
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Posted by Edwin Pawlowski on August 13, 2006, 11:44 pm
> Is it possible to get Liquid Wrench or the equivalent in quarts.
> Instead of the 4 oz bottles which is the largest size I've seen "nut
> busters" in.
www.mcmaster.com Page 2016 You can even get 5 gallons
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Posted by Richard J Kinch on August 14, 2006, 1:46 am
mm writes:
> Is it possible to get Liquid Wrench or the equivalent in quarts.
Don't be a sucker for "tiny can big label" marketing.
Liquid Wrench is just a petroleum distillate of about kerosene weight.
Gallons of (overpriced) kero at the paint store. Diesel fuel would be the
cheapest ready source of kerosene plus a few smelly additives.
I've never seen evidence that any of it really loosens nuts, although it
does lubricate them after they're loose.
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Posted by mm on August 14, 2006, 2:56 am
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:46:44 -0500, Richard J Kinch
>mm writes:
>
>> Is it possible to get Liquid Wrench or the equivalent in quarts.
>
>Don't be a sucker for "tiny can big label" marketing.
I don't think I'm a sucker. I've been using liquid wrench for 30 or
40 years and I think it is different from other things.
>Liquid Wrench is just a petroleum distillate of about kerosene weight.
>Gallons of (overpriced) kero at the paint store.
That's for sure. I needed kerosene too and it was 7 dollars a gallon
at Ace Hardware, (which did have the square U-bolts I was looking for.
I think I posted to say that already, follow-up to another thread,
where someone said to look in Ace Hardware and he was right.)
I think I'm going to buy kerosene at a fuel oil place. At another
hardware store I asked for kerosene and they sent me out to the yard,
and the guy there refilled my quart can from a big tank and charged
very little.
> Diesel fuel would be the
>cheapest ready source of kerosene plus a few smelly additives.
>
>I've never seen evidence that any of it really loosens nuts, although it
>does lubricate them after they're loose.
It worked just today, although it was the stuff that comes in the
"Zoom spout oiler", a cylindrical almost clear plastic bottle with a
long spout, in which is a movable tube which comes out to make the
whole tube about 6 inches long. I call it an oiler because I see the
oil for sale a lot of places, but the nut buster or whatever they call
it, I've only seen at 2 places, one of which doesn't sell it anymore.
Today I couldn't remove the distributor cap from my 95 Chrysler and
was starting to damage the screws, even with a good screwdriver. I
think perhaps it had never been opened and certainly not in the 4
years I've had the car. I put some of this on each of them, and
waited a couple minutes, and I got both of them. I don't think
kerosene is that thin, or that diesel fuel would work at all.
I have 3 bottles, one with this liquid wrench type stuff, one with
light oil, and one with 10W-30. Plus 3 empty bottles and I'm tired of
buying it 4 ounces at a time, or paying for 4 ounces more than what
they sell a quart for at McMaster (2.98) I'm going to make a list of
things and order from them. Thanks Edwin and Richard.
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Posted by dpb on August 14, 2006, 10:32 am
mm wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 00:46:44 -0500, Richard J Kinch
>
> >mm writes:
> >
...
> >Liquid Wrench is just a petroleum distillate of about kerosene weight.
...
Well, it's not "just" kerosene, it's a mixture with naptha-like
fractions for its penetrating ability. Kerosene or diesel alone don't
have the lower viscosity and reduced surface tension to penetrate
nearly as well. It definitely has some beneficial effects. One could,
of course, make their own blend, but the packaging in aerosols is one
beneficial result altho OP was apparently looking for the liquid.
Here's Section II of the MSDS which, of course, never gives away the
entire secret, but certainly gives a clue as to what is in any
product...
Liquid Wrench MSDS Chemical Makeup Info
CAS No. Chemical Name % Range
64742525 Naphthenic Petroleum Distillate 40 - 60
8008206 Petroleum Base Oil 40 - 60
I won't argue w/ the other poster that some more recent entrants may be
more effective (Kroil was mentioned, so here is the data from the MSDS
for it as well. More stuff, w/ some other trace ingredients, but
interestingly (yet not _too_ surprising) the two primary ingredients
are essentially the same...
Liquid Wrench MSDS Chemical Makeup Info
CAS No. % Range Chemical Name
64742-46-7 30%- 50% Petroleum Base Oil
78-92-2 1% - 10% Aliphatic Petroleum Distillate
64742-95-6 1% - 10% Petroleum Solvent
111-76-2 1% - 10% Aliphatic Hydrocarbon Solvent
1% - 20% Proprietary Mixture
64742-47-8 20%-40% Petroleum Naptha
123-42-2 1% - 10% Hydrocarbon Solvent
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