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Is my electrician dangerous? Please read Doobielicious 06-09-2008
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Posted by Doug Miller on June 10, 2008, 9:54 am
>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:44:43 GMT, "Doobielicious"
>
>>OK. My electrician has 1 feed for one of my bedrooms and a couple plugs in
>>hallway. The feed coming from my basement to my 2nd story has a short. They
><snip>
>
>You can label a wire on both ends using a tag or paint to make it
>another color. In other words you can put black tape on both ends of
>a white wire to use it as a hot wire.

Only under certain circumstances. And this isn't one of them.

A *black* wire is *never* permitted to be re-identified as a neutral.

And what about the damage to the cable? What about the fact that all of the
receptacles on the circuit have the hot and neutral reversed? What about the
fact that all the switches on the circuit now break the neutral side instead
of the hot side?

>Any experienced electrician
>should know what it takes to pass inspection. Personally, I don't
>give a rat's ass about a government inspection, but I do care about
>safety.

If you care about safety, then you shouldn't be suggesting, as you appear to
be, that there's *anything* legitimate about what this dangerously incompetent
baboon masquerading as an electrician did.

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Posted by mark on June 10, 2008, 1:19 pm

> OK. My electrician has 1 feed for one of my bedrooms and a couple plugs in
> > I am almost thinking about telling my general contractor that he will
> > not
> get paid for my reno until this electrical situation is fixed properly and
> I
> am thinking about getting another electrician to make the fix because I
> don't think I can trust this electrician.
>
> Any and all advice is welcome
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
Hey Doob,
I'm sure after the feedback you've received here your mind is pretty well
made up. I have to chime in and agree with the majority about the
electrician. I know a little bit about house wiring, not enough to be an
expert like some of those posting here. But even I know that putting your
switches in the neutral line is a huge no-no.... From what you have
described, you need to voice your displeasure with the GC about the
situation. Since the electrician is trying to pull a fast one, you need to
have someone you have confidence in. Let's face it, of the home utilities,
electric can be the trickiest and most potentially dangerous. And I would
still let the inspector know what happened, he may want to give closer
scrutiny to the rest of the job. Who knows, maybe this particular
electrician has a past history of working like this. His job isn't to bust
the electrician's balls, but it is to protect you, the homeowner. I had an
electrical inspection done after a major remodel, and he just gave the panel
a cursory once over. So, speak up to the GC, and please keep us posted with
the outcome. Mark
P.S. Buy a $5 tester and check ALL of his outlets for peace of mind.



Posted by Stormin Mormon on June 11, 2008, 9:47 am
Either "yes, he is". Or, you're a troll.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


OK. My electrician has 1 feed for one of my bedrooms and a couple plugs in
hallway. The feed coming from my basement to my 2nd story has a short. They
think the drywall or siding guys screwed into the wire. The circuit was
tripping so what he did was tied the neutral white wire into the breaker and
then tied the black into the neutral bar of my panel. All works plugs/lights
work. I caught this before and asked why he put the black on the neutral bar
and the neutral wire on the breaker. He said he had a short somewhere and
did that to find where the problem is.

So when I was at work I was told by my contractor that the electrical was
fixed up and ready for final inspection. Curious as I am, I decided to take
the cover off of my panel and found that he didn't make the change but that
he put black tape over the neutral wire and back into the circuit breaker
and left the black on the neutral bar.

I called my contractor (not the electrician) and told him what he did and
said that there was no way that this would pass inspection. Am I wrong? Is
this a fix that would pass inspection? Is this a common thing for
electricians to do? This to me seems like a lazy fix, but am not sure if
this presents a hazard.

Like I said everything works in my hallway and bedroom so I am thinking he
reversed his wiring to make things work. So what it appears to me is that
the black wire is hitting the ground wire form when someone screwed the
drywall or siding.

Please offer me some advice and please let me know what I should say to the
electrician when I question him on it. I know he will say hey don't worry it
is safe, but I need to know if it is not safe and if it is not safe why it
isn't safe to do this. That way he will not jerk me around and it would
appear like I know what I am talking about.

I am almost thinking about telling my general contractor that he will not
get paid for my reno until this electrical situation is fixed properly and I
am thinking about getting another electrician to make the fix because I
don't think I can trust this electrician.

Any and all advice is welcome

Thanks in Advance




Posted by Doobielicious on June 11, 2008, 8:27 pm
????


> Either "yes, he is". Or, you're a troll.
>
> --
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
>
>
> OK. My electrician has 1 feed for one of my bedrooms and a couple plugs in
> hallway. The feed coming from my basement to my 2nd story has a short.
They
> think the drywall or siding guys screwed into the wire. The circuit was
> tripping so what he did was tied the neutral white wire into the breaker
and
> then tied the black into the neutral bar of my panel. All works
plugs/lights
> work. I caught this before and asked why he put the black on the neutral
bar
> and the neutral wire on the breaker. He said he had a short somewhere and
> did that to find where the problem is.
>
> So when I was at work I was told by my contractor that the electrical was
> fixed up and ready for final inspection. Curious as I am, I decided to
take
> the cover off of my panel and found that he didn't make the change but
that
> he put black tape over the neutral wire and back into the circuit breaker
> and left the black on the neutral bar.
>
> I called my contractor (not the electrician) and told him what he did and
> said that there was no way that this would pass inspection. Am I wrong? Is
> this a fix that would pass inspection? Is this a common thing for
> electricians to do? This to me seems like a lazy fix, but am not sure if
> this presents a hazard.
>
> Like I said everything works in my hallway and bedroom so I am thinking he
> reversed his wiring to make things work. So what it appears to me is that
> the black wire is hitting the ground wire form when someone screwed the
> drywall or siding.
>
> Please offer me some advice and please let me know what I should say to
the
> electrician when I question him on it. I know he will say hey don't worry
it
> is safe, but I need to know if it is not safe and if it is not safe why it
> isn't safe to do this. That way he will not jerk me around and it would
> appear like I know what I am talking about.
>
> I am almost thinking about telling my general contractor that he will not
> get paid for my reno until this electrical situation is fixed properly and
I
> am thinking about getting another electrician to make the fix because I
> don't think I can trust this electrician.
>
> Any and all advice is welcome
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
>



Posted by metspitzer on June 11, 2008, 8:38 pm
Google "Stormin Mormon" +troll

8000 hits.

He is obsessed with the beasts.




On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:27:54 GMT, "Doobielicious"

>????
>
>
>> Either "yes, he is". Or, you're a troll.
>>
>> --

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