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Is tinted primer + one coat of paint enough for repainting walls? marin.kheng 05-19-2006
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Posted by PipeDown on May 19, 2006, 6:05 pm
Its very possible you'll need a second coat to cover the darker room. It
might work if you apply enough paint. Many people roll too much before
going back for more. Try one of those rollers with the built in pump for
fast and even coverage. I noticed that the dark colors mixed in the deep
base were worst at hiding.

I suggest you buy enough for one coat and start while the paint stores are
still open, It should be evident if a second coat is needed as soon as you
put up the first. You'll have time to get another can before the stores
close and force you to work into a second day.

A good high hiding white primer should be fine, you don't need tinted unless
the topcoat is a medium or dark color. Light cream sounds close to white.


> I'm getting ready to paint my new apartment and am trying to figure out
> the logistics.
>
> I'm using Benjamin Moore's Regal Eggshell paint (latex). One room is
> currently painted dark orange, the other lime green (both also with BJ
> latex paint), and I'm planning to repaint both of them to light cream.
> The third bedroom is standard white, and I"m planning to paint that one
> a soft, baby blue. All three rooms are small (110-160 sq. ft) with
> high, 9.5 foot ceilings, and don't get much natural light (especially
> the orange one).
>
> My plan is to use primer tinted close to my topcoat, and follow that
> with only one coat of paint. The paint stores near my house charge an
> arm and a leg for paint and I'm on a tight budget, so I'm hoping this
> is doable.
>
> My question is: Can I get away with using high-quality tinted primer
> plus just one coat of paint? I'm especially concerned if that's
> possible in the orange room.
>
> I'm not looking to do a perfect job, just a decent one that I'll be
> happy with for the year or two I'm living there. Any advice/experience
> is much appreciated.
>



Posted by Art on May 19, 2006, 10:58 pm
By the way, read the label about how to paint. Always keep a wet edge which
means paint a strip, paint a strip next to it and keep on going. Never go
back to a partially dried area until it is completely dry for recoat.


> Its very possible you'll need a second coat to cover the darker room. It
> might work if you apply enough paint. Many people roll too much before
> going back for more. Try one of those rollers with the built in pump for
> fast and even coverage. I noticed that the dark colors mixed in the deep
> base were worst at hiding.
>
> I suggest you buy enough for one coat and start while the paint stores are
> still open, It should be evident if a second coat is needed as soon as you
> put up the first. You'll have time to get another can before the stores
> close and force you to work into a second day.
>
> A good high hiding white primer should be fine, you don't need tinted
> unless the topcoat is a medium or dark color. Light cream sounds close to
> white.
>
>
>> I'm getting ready to paint my new apartment and am trying to figure out
>> the logistics.
>>
>> I'm using Benjamin Moore's Regal Eggshell paint (latex). One room is
>> currently painted dark orange, the other lime green (both also with BJ
>> latex paint), and I'm planning to repaint both of them to light cream.
>> The third bedroom is standard white, and I"m planning to paint that one
>> a soft, baby blue. All three rooms are small (110-160 sq. ft) with
>> high, 9.5 foot ceilings, and don't get much natural light (especially
>> the orange one).
>>
>> My plan is to use primer tinted close to my topcoat, and follow that
>> with only one coat of paint. The paint stores near my house charge an
>> arm and a leg for paint and I'm on a tight budget, so I'm hoping this
>> is doable.
>>
>> My question is: Can I get away with using high-quality tinted primer
>> plus just one coat of paint? I'm especially concerned if that's
>> possible in the orange room.
>>
>> I'm not looking to do a perfect job, just a decent one that I'll be
>> happy with for the year or two I'm living there. Any advice/experience
>> is much appreciated.
>>
>
>



Posted by RicodJour on May 19, 2006, 6:16 pm
marin.kheng@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm getting ready to paint my new apartment and am trying to figure out
> the logistics.
>
> I'm using Benjamin Moore's Regal Eggshell paint (latex). One room is
> currently painted dark orange, the other lime green (both also with BJ
> latex paint), and I'm planning to repaint both of them to light cream.
> The third bedroom is standard white, and I"m planning to paint that one
> a soft, baby blue. All three rooms are small (110-160 sq. ft) with
> high, 9.5 foot ceilings, and don't get much natural light (especially
> the orange one).
>
> My plan is to use primer tinted close to my topcoat, and follow that
> with only one coat of paint. The paint stores near my house charge an
> arm and a leg for paint and I'm on a tight budget, so I'm hoping this
> is doable.
>
> My question is: Can I get away with using high-quality tinted primer
> plus just one coat of paint? I'm especially concerned if that's
> possible in the orange room.
>
> I'm not looking to do a perfect job, just a decent one that I'll be
> happy with for the year or two I'm living there. Any advice/experience
> is much appreciated.

Primer is much thinner than the finish paint. It's designed to soak
in, seal surfaces and act as a bonding agent for the top coat. In
other words, it's not really a good choice if you're looking for
coverage over a darker paint. Tinting it won't improve the hiding
ability. The worst thing that could happen is to use primer and a
single top coat, then find out that it didn't cover to your
satisfaction so you'd be forced to buy more of the expensive top coat
anyway. In other words, you'd have totally wasted your time and money
on the primer.

Before I'd skimp on the top coat, I'd look into getting a less
expensive paint than Benjamin Moore. I'm shuddering as I type that.
In general, you get what you pay for in paint, so a less expensive
paint won't hide as well and won't last as long. The expensive
ingredients in paint are the solids and resins - you won't get as much
of those in a cheaper paint. But, since you're only looking to get a
couple of years out of the paint, the cheaper paint will suffice.

R


Posted by PipeDown on May 19, 2006, 6:30 pm

> marin.kheng@gmail.com wrote:
>> I'm getting ready to paint my new apartment and am trying to figure out
>> the logistics.
>>
>> I'm using Benjamin Moore's Regal Eggshell paint (latex). One room is
>> currently painted dark orange, the other lime green (both also with BJ
>> latex paint), and I'm planning to repaint both of them to light cream.
>> The third bedroom is standard white, and I"m planning to paint that one
>> a soft, baby blue. All three rooms are small (110-160 sq. ft) with
>> high, 9.5 foot ceilings, and don't get much natural light (especially
>> the orange one).
>>
>> My plan is to use primer tinted close to my topcoat, and follow that
>> with only one coat of paint. The paint stores near my house charge an
>> arm and a leg for paint and I'm on a tight budget, so I'm hoping this
>> is doable.
>>
>> My question is: Can I get away with using high-quality tinted primer
>> plus just one coat of paint? I'm especially concerned if that's
>> possible in the orange room.
>>
>> I'm not looking to do a perfect job, just a decent one that I'll be
>> happy with for the year or two I'm living there. Any advice/experience
>> is much appreciated.
>
> Primer is much thinner than the finish paint. It's designed to soak
> in, seal surfaces and act as a bonding agent for the top coat. In
> other words, it's not really a good choice if you're looking for
> coverage over a darker paint. Tinting it won't improve the hiding
> ability. The worst thing that could happen is to use primer and a
> single top coat, then find out that it didn't cover to your
> satisfaction so you'd be forced to buy more of the expensive top coat
> anyway. In other words, you'd have totally wasted your time and money
> on the primer.
>
> Before I'd skimp on the top coat, I'd look into getting a less
> expensive paint than Benjamin Moore. I'm shuddering as I type that.
> In general, you get what you pay for in paint, so a less expensive
> paint won't hide as well and won't last as long. The expensive
> ingredients in paint are the solids and resins - you won't get as much
> of those in a cheaper paint. But, since you're only looking to get a
> couple of years out of the paint, the cheaper paint will suffice.
>
> R
>

Primers like PVA type primer fit your description but stain blocking primers
like Kiltz cover up quite well. The difference shows in the price too.

One of the reasons Behr paint is less expensive is that it sells in higher
volume to cost consious consumers from a discount hardware store rather than
meduim volume to pros and elete consumers from specialty paint stores. Lets
not forget Sears (and sears owned OSH) where Glidden and Dutch Boy also have
good premium and high hiding versions. The Dutch Boy, Kids Room line touts
one coat coverage as a feature and they have those cool plastic paint cans
with the screw on lid.




Posted by hallerb@aol.com on May 19, 2006, 8:34 pm
I REALLY like Behr, been using it over 10 years and never disappointed.

Kilz would be a good primer


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