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KITCHEN PANTRY and new Cabinets???? infiniteMPG 07-01-2008
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Posted by infiniteMPG on July 1, 2008, 10:30 am
We just purchased a whole set of Cardell cabinets for our kitchen and
we're going to be doing the prep and installation ourselves. We opted
to "not" but the pantry unit from them as the cost put it well over
our limited budget. Instead we're going to make a framed in drywalled
pantry to mate up to the end of the cabinets which works out better as
there is a bedroom door at the end and this will add privacy to the
bedroom entrance when completed.

The question we have is the cabinets on the wall with the pantry will
be fitted between an existing wall and the new wall of the new
pantry. We didn't want to add a filler piece as this would take away
from the balance of the cabinets. The base units we're not concerned
with as the fridge is on one end and the space for the fridge can
accomodate any slight variations in width. The issue is with the wall
cabinets as they are solid between the existing and new wall.

We're debating on building the pantry first and "hoping" we got the
dimensions correct or installing the wall cabinets and then building
up against them. We're worried having the cabinet up we won't be able
to properly finish that side of the pantry wall or we may accidentally
damage the last cabinet. We'd rather have all the walls finished
before mounting the cabinets. We also thought about building the wall
and possibly the whole pantry and not attaching it to the back wall
until we have the cabinets delivered and then work out the exact
measurement (or mount them and then take that last unit down).

We're kind of new to this so we're totally open to suggestions not
just for the pantry wall but for building the pantry itself.

Thanks!!!

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Posted by dpb on July 1, 2008, 10:37 am
infiniteMPG wrote:
...
> The question we have is the cabinets on the wall with the pantry will
> be fitted between an existing wall and the new wall of the new
> pantry. We didn't want to add a filler piece as this would take away
> from the balance of the cabinets. The base units we're not concerned
> with as the fridge is on one end and the space for the fridge can
> accomodate any slight variations in width. The issue is with the wall
> cabinets as they are solid between the existing and new wall.
...

Build the pantry first, yes. It shouldn't be difficult to position
within an 1/8" or so of where it needs to be--you'll want the actual
dimensions of the cabinets, of course, which as pre-built will be
precise as given by the manufacturer. You'll also want to check the
existing wall is plumb and approximately straight to know what you need
for clearance.

Cabinets will have a flange on the side to allow for scribing to the
wall for small variation, or for a simpler job for DIY, plan on a narrow
filler or a corner mould at each end so they are centered.

--

Posted by infiniteMPG on July 1, 2008, 10:47 am
> Build the pantry first, yes. =A0It shouldn't be difficult to position wit=
hin an 1/8" or so of where it needs to be--you'll want the actual dimension=
s of the cabinets, of course, which as pre-built will be precise as given b=
y the manufacturer. =A0

Should we just request the cabinet dimensions from the manufacturer or
wait until they arrive and measure them ourselves?

> You'll also want to check the existing wall is plumb and approximately st=
raight to know what you need for clearance.

Didn't think about that, thanks!

> Cabinets will have a flange on the side to allow for scribing to the wall=
for small variation, or for a simpler job for DIY, plan on a narrow filler=
or a corner mould at each end so they are centered.

We did purchase a touch up kit so we can hopefully have enough stain
to match any filler piece. The cabinets are not going to the ceiling,
should we leave the pantry shy of the ceiling, too, or make that floor
to ceiling? We don't have a really high ceiling but we were too
tight to make the cabinets work out. We did order top molding to
mount around the cabinets.

Posted by hr(bob) hofmann@att.net on July 1, 2008, 11:26 am
> > Build the pantry first, yes. =A0It shouldn't be difficult to position w=
ithin an 1/8" or so of where it needs to be--you'll want the actual dimensi=
ons of the cabinets, of course, which as pre-built will be precise as given=
by the manufacturer. =A0
>
> Should we just request the cabinet dimensions from the manufacturer or
> wait until they arrive and measure them ourselves?
>
> > You'll also want to check the existing wall is plumb and approximately =
straight to know what you need for clearance.
>
> Didn't think about that, thanks!
>
> > Cabinets will have a flange on the side to allow for scribing to the wa=
ll for small variation, or for a simpler job for DIY, plan on a narrow fill=
er or a corner mould at each end so they are centered.
>
> We did purchase a touch up kit so we can hopefully have enough stain
> to match any filler piece. =A0The cabinets are not going to the ceiling,
> should we leave the pantry shy of the ceiling, too, or make that floor
> to ceiling? =A0 We don't have a really high ceiling but we were too
> tight to make the cabinets work out. =A0We did order top molding to
> mount around the cabinets.

I would wait until the cabinets arrive and put them in, all except the
last cabinet next to the new pantry wall. Then measure carefully and
put the wall up, then the last cabinet. I would put the pantry up to
the ceiling, just for the extra storage space for seldom-used things.
Try some cardboard boxes to simulate what it would look like up to the
cabinet height and then all the way up to the ceiling if you have
doubts about the appearance. You can put some flatish trim up on the
ceiling and sides above the front edge of the cabinets to sort of
frame-in the open space above the cabinets, and then put some "things"
in the space to decorate it a little bit. I did that in my condo unit
and was surprised at how it actually improves the look of the space
that otherwise just sits there.

Posted by infiniteMPG on July 1, 2008, 12:06 pm
> I would wait until the cabinets arrive and put them in, all except the las=
t cabinet next to the new pantry wall. =A0Then measure carefully and put the=
wall up, then the last cabinet. =A0

I think I like that plan as even if the manufacturer's dimensions were
dead on and I was 1/16" short the last cabinet would be a mess to put
in.

>>I would put the pantry up to the ceiling, just for the extra storage space=
for seldom-used things.

True. And once I sit back and think about it, the pantry becomes part
of the house and the cabinets are replacable. If the pantry didn't go
all the way up to the ceiling it would look like an add-on and also if
the next cabinets went all the way up the pantry would just look
silly.

> Try some cardboard boxes to simulate what it would look like up to the cab=
inet height and then all the way up to the ceiling if you have doubts about =
the appearance. =A0

Good idea because we're already wondering how far to have the pantry
stick out into the room. That would solve that.

>> You can put some flatish trim up on the ceiling and sides above the front=
edge of the cabinets to sort of frame-in the open space above the cabinets,=
and then put some "things" in the space to decorate it a little bit. =A0I d=
id that in my condo unit and was surprised at how it actually improves the l=
ook of the space that otherwise just sits there.

Already done! :O) We ordered matching molding (the cabinet doors
have a rope wood pattern and the molding has it, too) to go around the
tops of the cabinets and smaller molding as light kits to go around
the bottom.

THANKS!!

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