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Posted by homer on October 25, 2009, 9:36 am
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>Anybody familiar with them? Is the "EZ" (model P4460) worth an
>extra $15 over model P4400?
>I want to see how much electricity my freezers, TV sets, computers,
>etc are *really* using, plus check the frequency stability of my
>portable generator and that little inverter than I mounted in my truck.
>Thanks,
>Bob
It may not work on a freezer. It has built in over current protection
that kills power to the device and a freezer may be too much to
handle. I know I cant get a reading off my fridge because the
compressor start up current is over this limit.
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Posted by on October 25, 2009, 10:30 am
> wrote:
> >Anybody familiar with them? =A0Is the "EZ" (model P4460) worth an
> >extra $15 over model P4400?
> >I want to see how much electricity my freezers, TV sets, computers,
> >etc are *really* using, plus check the frequency stability of my
> >portable generator and that little inverter than I mounted in my truck.
> >Thanks,
> >Bob
> It may not work on a freezer. =A0It has built in over current protection
> that kills power to the device and a freezer may be too much to
> handle. =A0I know I cant get a reading off my fridge because the
> compressor start up current is over this limit.
I'd definitely get the EZ model. It's worth the small addional cost.
You can enter the cost of electricity per KWh and it then will
directly display how much it costs to run the load per day, week,
month or year. You can just leave it up on the display and watch it
update, glance at it during the day, etc. Much better than just
seeing XX Kwh and having to manually do the translation.
Good news is Costco has them for $27.
Bad news is that about 6 months ago I bought one and it was bad. One
push button did not work at all. Took it back and got another one.
That one, a different button didn't work at all. So, I waited
hoping the crap ones would clear out. Bought one last week and it's
working perfectly, at least so far.....
I've put one on two refrigerators, a 24 year old one and a new one.
It worked on both.
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Posted by on October 25, 2009, 12:11 pm
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT), trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>> wrote:
>> >Anybody familiar with them? Is the "EZ" (model P4460) worth an
>> >extra $15 over model P4400?
>> >I want to see how much electricity my freezers, TV sets, computers,
>> >etc are *really* using, plus check the frequency stability of my
>> >portable generator and that little inverter than I mounted in my truck.
>> >Thanks,
>> >Bob
>> It may not work on a freezer. It has built in over current protection
>> that kills power to the device and a freezer may be too much to
>> handle. I know I cant get a reading off my fridge because the
>> compressor start up current is over this limit.
>I'd definitely get the EZ model. It's worth the small addional cost.
>You can enter the cost of electricity per KWh and it then will
>directly display how much it costs to run the load per day, week,
>month or year. You can just leave it up on the display and watch it
>update, glance at it during the day, etc. Much better than just
>seeing XX Kwh and having to manually do the translation.
>Good news is Costco has them for $27.
>Bad news is that about 6 months ago I bought one and it was bad. One
>push button did not work at all. Took it back and got another one.
>That one, a different button didn't work at all. So, I waited
>hoping the crap ones would clear out. Bought one last week and it's
>working perfectly, at least so far.....
>I've put one on two refrigerators, a 24 year old one and a new one.
>It worked on both.
The first eye opener for most people is just how little power a fridge
actually uses. It is certainly not the power hog most people think it
is. (a new one).
My side by side, ice in the door Whirlpool used 120KWH in 61.2 days
(August September) and it was outside in the Florida summer heat in
the pool bar. If it was in the house I would expect a lower number but
the difference might show up in the A/C bill..
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Posted by Heathcliff on October 26, 2009, 2:09 pm
On Oct 25, 11:11=A0am, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT), trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> >> wrote:
> >> >Anybody familiar with them? =A0Is the "EZ" (model P4460) worth an
> >> >extra $15 over model P4400?
> >> >I want to see how much electricity my freezers, TV sets, computers,
> >> >etc are *really* using, plus check the frequency stability of my
> >> >portable generator and that little inverter than I mounted in my truc=
k.
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Bob
> >> It may not work on a freezer. =A0It has built in over current protecti=
on
> >> that kills power to the device and a freezer may be too much to
> >> handle. =A0I know I cant get a reading off my fridge because the
> >> compressor start up current is over this limit.
> >I'd definitely get the EZ model. =A0It's worth the small addional cost.
> >You can enter the cost of electricity per KWh and it then will
> >directly display how much it costs to run the load per day, week,
> >month or year. =A0 =A0You can just leave it up on the display and watch =
it
> >update, glance at it during the day, etc. =A0 Much better than just
> >seeing XX Kwh and having to manually do the translation.
> >Good news is Costco has them for $27.
> >Bad news is that about 6 months ago I bought one and it was bad. =A0 One
> >push button did not work at all. =A0 Took it back and got another one.
> >That one, a different button didn't work at all. =A0 =A0So, I waited
> >hoping the crap ones would clear out. =A0 Bought one last week and it's
> >working perfectly, at least so far.....
> >I've put one on two refrigerators, a 24 year old one and a new one.
> >It worked on both.
> The first eye opener for most people is just how little power a fridge
> actually uses. It is certainly not the power hog most people think it
> is. (a new one).
> My side by side, ice in the door Whirlpool used 120KWH in 61.2 days
> (August September) and it was outside in the Florida summer heat in
> the pool bar. If it was in the house I would expect a lower number but
> the difference might show up in the A/C bill..
Depends on the age of the fridge. I bought my kill-a-watt to build a
case for buying a new one. Our refrigerator dated to the 1960s and
after monitoring for a few weeks with the kill a watt meter, looked
like annual usage would be around 2400 KWH, about four times what the
new ones use. So the meter was a good investment of $20, we save
almost that much every month on electricity with the new fridge. -- H
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Posted by Van Chocstraw on October 27, 2009, 6:03 pm
gfretwell@aol.com wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:30:37 -0700 (PDT), trader4@optonline.net wrote:
>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Anybody familiar with them? Is the "EZ" (model P4460) worth an
>>>> extra $15 over model P4400?
>>>> I want to see how much electricity my freezers, TV sets, computers,
>>>> etc are *really* using, plus check the frequency stability of my
>>>> portable generator and that little inverter than I mounted in my truck.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bob
>>> It may not work on a freezer. It has built in over current protection
>>> that kills power to the device and a freezer may be too much to
>>> handle. I know I cant get a reading off my fridge because the
>>> compressor start up current is over this limit.
>> I'd definitely get the EZ model. It's worth the small addional cost.
>> You can enter the cost of electricity per KWh and it then will
>> directly display how much it costs to run the load per day, week,
>> month or year. You can just leave it up on the display and watch it
>> update, glance at it during the day, etc. Much better than just
>> seeing XX Kwh and having to manually do the translation.
>> Good news is Costco has them for $27.
>> Bad news is that about 6 months ago I bought one and it was bad. One
>> push button did not work at all. Took it back and got another one.
>> That one, a different button didn't work at all. So, I waited
>> hoping the crap ones would clear out. Bought one last week and it's
>> working perfectly, at least so far.....
>> I've put one on two refrigerators, a 24 year old one and a new one.
>> It worked on both.
>
>
> The first eye opener for most people is just how little power a fridge
> actually uses. It is certainly not the power hog most people think it
> is. (a new one).
> My side by side, ice in the door Whirlpool used 120KWH in 61.2 days
> (August September) and it was outside in the Florida summer heat in
> the pool bar. If it was in the house I would expect a lower number but
> the difference might show up in the A/C bill..
>
That is about 60hwh a month, is that a bargain?
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>extra $15 over model P4400?
>I want to see how much electricity my freezers, TV sets, computers,
>etc are *really* using, plus check the frequency stability of my
>portable generator and that little inverter than I mounted in my truck.
>Thanks,
>Bob