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Lawnmower confusion Michael Dobony 10-07-2009
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Posted by Michael Dobony on October 7, 2009, 11:06 pm


On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:32:46 -0700, Oren wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:42:21 -0500, Michael Dobony
>
>>I have a 6.75hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Techumsa engine and my son has a
>>4.5hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. I just cut my
>>son's very tall, thick lawn (3 weeks of rainy weather) with his 4.5hp mower
>>and it never bogged down to the point of stalling and rarely slowed down
>>much, even taking full width cuts. OTOH, my 6.75hp mower bogs down on thin,
>>long lawn (2 weeks little rain) to the point of totally dying if I take any
>>more than a 1/4 width cut. What gives?
>>Mike D.
>
> Up or Down hill?

flat and not a rider.

Posted by Bob-tx on October 8, 2009, 7:10 am



>I have a 6.75hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Techumsa engine and my
>son has a
> 4.5hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. I
> just cut my
> son's very tall, thick lawn (3 weeks of rainy weather) with his
> 4.5hp mower
> and it never bogged down to the point of stalling and rarely
> slowed down
> much, even taking full width cuts. OTOH, my 6.75hp mower bogs down
> on thin,
> long lawn (2 weeks little rain) to the point of totally dying if I
> take any
> more than a 1/4 width cut. What gives?
> Mike D.

Techumsa engine - that's the problem.
Just wait until you have to have the engine worked on - for the same
money, you
can buy a new mower

Bob-tx



Posted by Twayne on October 9, 2009, 3:56 pm


> I have a 6.75hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Techumsa engine and my son
> has a
> 4.5hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. I just
> cut my son's very tall, thick lawn (3 weeks of rainy weather) with
> his 4.5hp mower and it never bogged down to the point of stalling and
> rarely slowed down much, even taking full width cuts. OTOH, my 6.75hp
> mower bogs down on thin, long lawn (2 weeks little rain) to the point
> of totally dying if I take any more than a 1/4 width cut. What gives?
> Mike D.

All kinds of possibilities, none of which are the brand in a case like
this. YOu have things like the following that can affect how well they
work:
-- Engine tuned? Just like a car they need an occasional tune-up based
on how they're used.
-- Environment? Used in dusty/not dusty places? Ever replaced the air
filter?
-- Using old or fresh gas?
-- Water in the fuel?
-- Fuel filter changed?
-- Tire pressures, if applicable, set right?
-- Compared at same time or different times? Weather, humidity, etc
etc etc all can make a difference.
-- Engine clean? Fins clean? Debris cleaned out? Air flow OK?
-- Proper oil?
-- Past Preventive Maintenance record?
-- Blades sharp?
-- Blades aligned properly?
-- Belts all good?
-- All pulleys tight & rolling free?
-- Idler arms set properly?
-- Hours logged on the engines? (Here, brand CAN make a difference!)
-- Good overall design of the mechanics?
-- ...

AS you can see there are a LOT of reasons for a difference as you
mention. I noticed somoene said 8 HP was fine for a 3-blade deck, which
is nonsense. 8 HP is seriously under-powered and a very hard
combination to find, actually. A few of the other ego-boast guesses I
saw were nearly as silly too. Without having them sitting side by side
in my garage to test/adjust/observe and maybe repair, a person can't
really give you a definitive answer to this one.
If I were forced to guess, I'd say an engine tune-up, blade
sharpening and deck adjustments are the place to start.

Cheers,

Twayne`



Posted by Michael Dobony on October 9, 2009, 9:53 pm


On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:56:22 -0400, Twayne wrote:

>> I have a 6.75hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Techumsa engine and my son
>> has a
>> 4.5hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. I just
>> cut my son's very tall, thick lawn (3 weeks of rainy weather) with
>> his 4.5hp mower and it never bogged down to the point of stalling and
>> rarely slowed down much, even taking full width cuts. OTOH, my 6.75hp
>> mower bogs down on thin, long lawn (2 weeks little rain) to the point
>> of totally dying if I take any more than a 1/4 width cut. What gives?
>> Mike D.
>
> All kinds of possibilities, none of which are the brand in a case like
> this. YOu have things like the following that can affect how well they
> work:
> -- Engine tuned? Just like a car they need an occasional tune-up based
> on how they're used.
> -- Environment? Used in dusty/not dusty places? Ever replaced the air
> filter?

Read previous post, changed about a month ago. Not dusty

> -- Using old or fresh gas?

fresh gas
> -- Water in the fuel?

Doubt it.
> -- Fuel filter changed?

no fuel filter
> -- Tire pressures, if applicable, set right?

not a rider
> -- Compared at same time or different times? Weather, humidity, etc
> etc etc all can make a difference.

always had low power
> -- Engine clean? Fins clean? Debris cleaned out? Air flow OK?

cleaned
> -- Proper oil?

yes
> -- Past Preventive Maintenance record?
> -- Blades sharp?

again, read previous posts. My son's yard is full of rocks and hidden
bricks, which I hit numerous times
> -- Blades aligned properly?

Single blade on a push mower
> -- Belts all good?


See above and previous posts
> -- All pulleys tight & rolling free?

See above
> -- Idler arms set properly?

See above
> -- Hours logged on the engines? (Here, brand CAN make a difference!)

mine had no power from the start. I initially chalked it up to pollution
controls of all new motors
> -- Good overall design of the mechanics?


Good question. I am not a lawn mower engineer so can't comment on design.
> -- ...
>
> AS you can see there are a LOT of reasons for a difference as you
> mention. I noticed somoene said 8 HP was fine for a 3-blade deck, which
> is nonsense. 8 HP is seriously under-powered and a very hard
> combination to find, actually. A few of the other ego-boast guesses I
> saw were nearly as silly too. Without having them sitting side by side
> in my garage to test/adjust/observe and maybe repair, a person can't
> really give you a definitive answer to this one.
> If I were forced to guess, I'd say an engine tune-up, blade
> sharpening and deck adjustments are the place to start.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Twayne`

Posted by bob haller on October 10, 2009, 12:48 am


:
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:56:22 -0400, Twayne wrote:
> >> I have a 6.75hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Techumsa engine and my son
> >> has a
> >> 4.5hp Craftsman lawnmower with a Briggs and Stratton engine. I just
> >> cut my son's very tall, thick lawn (3 weeks of rainy weather) with
> >> his 4.5hp mower and it never bogged down to the point of stalling and
> >> rarely slowed down much, even taking full width cuts. OTOH, my 6.75hp
> >> mower bogs down on thin, long lawn (2 weeks little rain) to the point
> >> of totally dying if I take any more than a 1/4 width cut. What gives?
> >> Mike D.
> > All kinds of possibilities, none of which are the brand in a case like
> > this. =EF=BF=BDYOu have things like the following that can affect how w=
ell they
> > work:
> > -- =EF=BF=BDEngine tuned? Just like a car they need an occasional tune-=
up based
> > on how they're used.
> > -- =EF=BF=BDEnvironment? Used in dusty/not dusty places? =EF=BF=BDEver =
replaced the air
> > filter?
> Read previous post, changed about a month ago. Not dusty
> > -- =EF=BF=BDUsing old or fresh gas?
> fresh gas
> > -- =EF=BF=BDWater in the fuel?
> Doubt it.
> > -- =EF=BF=BDFuel filter changed?
> no fuel filter
> > -- =EF=BF=BDTire pressures, if applicable, set right?
> not a rider
> > -- =EF=BF=BDCompared at same time or different times? =EF=BF=BDWeather,=
humidity, etc
> > etc etc all can make a difference.
> always had low power
> > -- =EF=BF=BDEngine clean? Fins clean? Debris cleaned out? Air flow OK?
> cleaned
> > -- =EF=BF=BDProper oil?
> yes
> > -- =EF=BF=BDPast Preventive Maintenance record?
> > -- =EF=BF=BDBlades sharp?
> again, read previous posts. My son's yard is full of rocks and hidden
> bricks, which I hit numerous times
> > -- =EF=BF=BDBlades aligned properly?
> Single blade on a push mower
> > -- =EF=BF=BDBelts all good?
> See above and previous posts
> > -- =EF=BF=BDAll pulleys tight & rolling free?
> See above
> > -- =EF=BF=BDIdler arms set properly?
> See above
> > -- =EF=BF=BDHours logged on the engines? (Here, brand CAN make a differ=
ence!)
> mine had no power from the start. I initially chalked it up to pollution
> controls of all new motors
> > -- =EF=BF=BDGood overall design of the mechanics?
> Good question. I am not a lawn mower engineer so can't comment on design.
> > -- ...
> > AS you can see there are a LOT of reasons for a difference as you
> > mention. =EF=BF=BDI noticed somoene said 8 HP was fine for a 3-blade de=
ck, which
> > is nonsense. =EF=BF=BD8 HP is seriously under-powered and a very hard
> > combination to find, actually. =EF=BF=BDA few of the other ego-boast gu=
esses I
> > saw were nearly as silly too. =EF=BF=BDWithout having them sitting side=
by side
> > in my garage to test/adjust/observe and maybe repair, a person can't
> > really give you a definitive answer to this one.
> > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDIf I were forced to guess, I'd say an engine tune-up=
, blade
> > sharpening and deck adjustments are the place to start.
> > Cheers,
> > Twayne`- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> - Show quoted text -

is running speed fast enough? might be a govenor problem...........

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